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Well I got the axle under the trailer and the springs installed. Going to start on wheel wells next.

Post pics later.

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I got the underside of the wheel wells painted. Not going to worry about the outside or to good of a job on the underside. If they give me to much more trouble I will replace them with new ones.

Next I will start replacing the other U bolts on the frame.

Maybe later this winter or early spring I will get to replace the rollers. I read in an old thread that Air Slot did that and ran into some training opportunities. Any chance you will shed some light on that for me Air. ::)

Still no pics yet, I got them just been too busy to post them.

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Hmmmm, I may have to go look at some old posts, cause I can't seem to remember. What I do remember was the hog rings being fused into the aluminum roller frames and I had to drill them out.

Here's a tip for ya that works. When you replace those big washers, paint em with bearing grease each spring. They will help the rollers work more smoothly and last forever.

Airslot

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Fenders, just spry with undercoating!! Cheap, last forever ;)

I no like grease any were near the rollers!! Just some WD from time to time the grease attracts dirt like fly to fruit, make them rollers stick in no time!

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I just talked to a guy who owns a new load rite trailer and found out that my *roller arms and supports are supose to tilt and swivel. Did that make any sense. Any how when my boat is off the trailer none of the roller arms or supports move. >:(



http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...oller_arms.gif

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Yes, they are supposed to move, articulate, swivel, and follow the hull as it loads and unloads. Sometimes after years they stiffen up and don't move freely, like everything else dipped in saltwater.

Airslot

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I guess I am going to have to make a special trip to put the boat over and lube and free them up. Then replace the rollers.

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OK here are the pictures I shorted you on.

One hub on. OK boy make sure it don't go anywhere.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0323.sized.jpg

Second hub on. A little chilly today but heater don't want to work. Need to replace the air pump.

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http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0324.sized.jpg [/img]

Axle and springs installed.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0325.sized.jpg

Inside of wheel well painted.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0326.sized.jpg

Well now your up to date. Next I will install the wheel wells and the tires.

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Got the wheel wells and tires on today and greased up the wench. The jack could use a little lube too.

Just a few more U bolts to replace and then the rollers.

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My Load-rite rollers swivel all over the place.

Boy I miss that old Blazer!!:'(

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._096.sized.jpg

My last trailer was also to move, but were froze like yours, but they were froze in perfect position, and I left it alone!

A friend of mine fixed his, and the only way is that you will have to get the boat off the trailer and get all the bolts out, clean and replace with SS and all will be good again.

Now there is a small problem here, SS is not as strong as steel, you should use grade 8 bolts here cause they take a lot of weight!
But if you use steel they will rust again and you will start to stiffen up.

My buddy used SS and in 4 years 2 bolts broke!! I would use Steel and keep well lubed!!

I don't like grease or never seize here because it attracts dirt and holds it, there for it will start binding.

Just rinse with freash water well and when you can just spray the crap out of them with a good oil!

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MJ I am assuming you no longer have that trailer. I would like to see some close ups if you still have it, or from anybody else.

Looked at mine a little closer today and found they are more like sliders then rollers. :(

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The Load-Rite on the blazer is my brand new one!! You see the old under the V20 in the back ground.

They have plastic bushings on the screws.

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Great work, Turbo!!...any pics of finished insallation?...

...every now and then a thread comes along that's REALLY informative...this one gets an "A" ....IMHO of course... ;) ...

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Thanks RAP. I will take some today with tires on and off the jack stands.

Looking into the roller situation and I am not liking what I am finding. My rollers are 4" wide and 4" tall, the shaft is 3/4" but it looks like the shaft length or the web of the rollers is only 1/2".

Most new rollers I am finding have a shaft length of 1 1/4" to 1 1/2". Where can I find one as narrow as what I have on there now.

Also it seems easier to find 5" tall and 3" wide rollers. The extra 1" higher doesn't bother me but the 1" narrower seems like I will be giving up valuable support surface. Any thoughts from you guys who have done this before.

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Turbo, take a peak here:
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...%5Epage%7EGRID

See if that's what you need. What brand trailer do you have? There are a couple of places local that can get whatever you need.

Airslot

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Air: its suppose to be a load rite but lateley it seems to be a load wrong. :(

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Air those are the rollers I have now. Dont know if I should go back with them or upgrade to the bushing type. The bushing type will require new arms as well, $$$$$. Maybe if I go back with these they will last a couple of years. Hopfuly load and unload better.

Another thing I thought about is the rollers I have now have a hole drilled in them so the roll pin, which is rusted, can be driven into and out of the shaft.

Not looking forward to this at all. I was worried about the spring replacement but it went better then expected. I was hoping the rollers would be easier then the springs but it's not looking that way. ???

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Turbo, don't sweat it. Post up a pic of one of your roller arms. We'll figure out the best solution. I've done enough trailer work over the years to figure a few things out. ;) I can't see how you'd need new arms to change roller types. Even the tie down yellow rollers come with different size bushings in the kit to accomodate differing shaft sizes.

Airslot

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I would like to start this reply with a warning. MJ and Stinky need not read any further. ;D






Air It's not the diameter on the shaft that bothers me, it's the length of it. The space between the inside washer and the outside washer is only about 1/2".

I'll try to get some close ups to post so you can see what I am talking about.

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:-[ You hurt my feelings!!!!! :'(

I would never say anything about you liking it longer then wider!!

But that must just be a guy thing, cause women like it wider if they have to make a choice!! ;D

But the rollers that were just posted above are the right one, I believe??

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Turbo, if the roller-replacement gets too HAIRY :o or COSTLY :P ...you can always chunk the rollers and go w/ bunks ... if ya do, I'd make 'em the big timber jobs instead of brackets and 2xs ... just a thought, don't know your ramps up there... :D ...

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RAP, bunks aren't an option around here. There are a few good ramps, but at many you'd be hosed at low tide.


Airslot

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Yup, that's what I wus afeerd of ... :P ...

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Nice Turbo . . . The Rollers are a PIA to fix, b/c the C clamps freeze up inside the top holes . . . the trick (when you get there) is to use a drill press. Come at it from the bottom hole and drill the rusty stub right out.

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RAP: Here are the finished axle and spring photos.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0335.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0344.sized.jpg

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AIR: Here are some pics of the rollers and supports.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0327.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0328.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0329.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0330.sized.jpg

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Heres some more.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0331.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0332.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0333.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...0334.sized.jpg


Thats all I got for now. Any suggestions?

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Couple of ideas, but I know where there is a set of used pivot arms w/ more rollers and everything ready to go, I think. You have time to drive toward Chinc in the next few days? Just past the first gas station there is a consignment place on the left. They have some trailer parts left side of building and there were pivot arms ready to bolt on to your trailer.

Second idea: Your trailer looks standard issue loadrite. The hog rings are rusted to heck. Probably have to block a portion of the boat so that you can remove one pivot arm at a time. Then you can disassemble and install new rollers. Shouldn't be that big of a job. I'd call it 3 beers and a quart of blood. Language bonus is optional ;D

Airslot

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AIR: I would probably float the boat to do this work. Thinking ahead so I can get the parts I need before starting.

Those hog rings are roll pins that I will have to drive out.

Next time I am over towards Chinco. I'll stop and take a look.


Thanks for your input. :)

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Uhhhg, roll pins more of a pain than hog rings. Good luck.

Air

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Thats it. :(



Thats all I get. Good luck. >:(


Where's the " Call me when you are starting and I'll be right there" or "If you need help just call" or "it'll cost a few beers but I can help if needed". ???

Good luck.

Well I guess it's better than nothing. :-/








Just funning ya AIR, thanks for the inputs. ;D

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My last trailer had thin rollers like that. What I did is removed all, got new washers and hog rings, (yes you have them on the back of the roller) Place the roller on the arm and see were it need to ride. Drill new hole and add hog ring or big cotter pin, add roller, another roller and pin you are set to go!!
You have to think out of the box!!

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MJ about how much life should I be able to get out of them. This trailer came with the boat so I dont know how old they are.

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Turbo, ya need a hand? Actually serious on that. I'm in the off season now so I can get away now and then...Lost a fishing trip tonight due to that brake and I'm mad... >:(

Airslot

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Air: I'm not ready to start just yet, but if you want, you can stop by just to look it over and offer suggestions. Due to work schedule it will be the 26th before I can devote time to your Royal visit. ;D

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Turbo...you trailer no rock or roll ?? :-[ ...


...but that's a GREAT job on the axle/ springs !! ... 8) ...thanks for postin' all the pics ;) ;D ...

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Royal Visit scheduled for 1/26, really, I wrote it on my schedule ;D

Air

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When I did mine I use all SS cotter pins and they never rusted again!
As for the washers you will have to go Galv. I got rid of my traier 4 years after fixing it and they were all still moving!

That said I use the next size roller, so if you have 3/4 holes go to 1" roller, this allows room for the rust to roll out of the center.
which is the main cause of frozen rollers! There is no room for the rust on the shaft to get out, so it just swells and then seizes the roller in place.

You will notice all or most new trailers have a square shaft. Two sides are rounded for the roller to turn right. the flat sides allow the crap to fall off the center.

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AIR: you got my cell number for directions?


MJ I like the idea of stainless cotter pins.

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I gotcha Turbo.

Air