"Guess That Boat" - the game

[TheTinMan]

Thought this would be fun.

No one can post a boat until this one is ID'd. That person will post the next boat.


What is it? You need to name the Make and what length, model not necessary.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/1429499_1.jpg

[lumberslinger178]

18-20 ft winner??

[Seacrets]

20' Formula?

[charlie_the_tuna]

24 performer?

[charlie_the_tuna]

22 searay?

[Stinky_Hooker]

20' Formula?


werd

[TheTinMan]

Nope, not yet http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/crazy/086.gif

[bradford]

Chris Craft Scorpion

[TheTinMan]

Uh oh....more specifc please. ;)

[TheTinMan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/2-1.jpg

[bradford]

Scorpion 201??...211??

[bradford]

Scorpion 212, prelude to the seahawk?

[TheTinMan]

Bradford is close....but no cigar...yet http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/crazy/033.gif

[TheTinMan]

look at that deep vee!



bigger

[bradford]

215 maybe?

[TheTinMan]

Same boat


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/chrisstbfwd.jpg

[bradford]

I give up! ???

[TheTinMan]

not a Scorpion

[bradford]

stinger???

[TheTinMan]

no

[TheTinMan]

You need to guess the make and the length, I'll add that to the rules....you're almost there!

[bradford]

I give up ???

[phester]

scorpion 222 ?

[TheTinMan]

not a Scorpion

[TheTinMan]

You need to guess the make and the length, model not necessary

[Airslot]

21' Chriscraft?

Air

[TheTinMan]

nope

[Skools Out]

Cutlass 22

[Skools Out]

LANCER 23

[TheTinMan]

LANCER 23


WINNER! Now you post one. :)

[Skools Out]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/85429174_1.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/85429174_4.jpg

[Seacrets]

Hey Stink, do a search on a 20' Formula on boat trader online. At least I got the color right.

[Skools Out]

Anybody got any guess's on this one yet? Brand and model?

[bradford]

I'm not sure what it is, but that T-top sure is small.

[Kajun]

20ft sea ox

[TheTinMan]

20ft sea ox

I agree....good call, Kajun.....I think???

[Seacrets]

Sure looks like a Sea Ox

[chumbucket]

20' Robalo. 8)

[msbhammer]

It looks just to Plane "EXSPENSIVE" to me. ;D
Do I win anything. ;D

[chumbucket]

Next up...............since I'm correct. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/1644832_6.jpg

[reelapeelin]

Did Blackfin make that small a boat?...

[Skools Out]

20' Robalo. 8)


You're the Winner post the next boat.

That was a 1974 Robalo 200

[Skools Out]

can i win again? i don't want to post another though

I'll help you guys out that a 20' Open Fish i'll let someone else tell the make.

[V20Twin]

shamrock ?

[chumbucket]

Shamrock is correct! 8)

[V20Twin]

:)

[chumbucket]

You're up V20T. You get to post the next whatzit. ;)

[V20Twin]

i'm not sure how to post a pic sorry guys

[macojoe]

since V20T can't post I will post one in his place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/macojoe/99ee_12.jpg

[Skools Out]

Aquasport 18

[TheTinMan]

Mako 19

[charlie_the_tuna]

sportcraft?

[macojoe]

NOPE ;)

[phatdaddy]

sea squirt?

[macojoe]

sea squirt?

Never heard of that??

[TheTinMan]

Angler 19

[phester]

Angler 19
that would be my guess , I traded my Angeler 19 for the v20

[macojoe]

Nope!!

[Skools Out]

you could give help here

[macojoe]

it's a 17 footer, 1997, 8 foot beam

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/macojoe/9a87_12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/macojoe/9c94_12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/macojoe/9d1a_12.jpg

[Skools Out]

18' cobia

[macojoe]

Nope ;)

[TheTinMan]

Proline

[macojoe]

wow, Nope

Hmm........it has a two word name run toghter, like Well craft (wellcraft)

No its not a wellcraft.

[chumbucket]

Looks like a 17' Seamaster to me. :P

[TheTinMan]

Looks like a 17' Seamaster to me. :P

CB, you're good....or a cheater...lol ;)

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/photoGallery.jsp?slim=quick&currency=USD&units=Fee t&seo=0&checked_boats=1566147&boat_id=1566147&back =/core/listing/boatDetails.jsp&boat_id=1566147 ;D ;D

[macojoe]

Someone was looking on ebay!! ;)

Yep you got it!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17c-c-fishing-boat-frsh-water-used-only-w-roller-trlr_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80652QQhashZitem32 0061448975QQihZ011QQitemZ320061448975QQrdZ1

[chumbucket]

Well. In order to "cheat", one must first have an idea of who the manufacturer was in the first place. No? ;D
So, if I think it's a Seamaster, then hop on over to Ebay, traderonline, or wherever to confirm my guess, I wouldn't call that cheating. Would you? ::) ;D ;D ;D

[macojoe]

Who said you cheated??

I just simply guessed you were on ebay.

Hell I could not have picked out a single boat here!

Do what you have to win!! Thats my saying!

Your turn again!!

[chumbucket]

Okay MJ. You're out of the guessing on this one because you'll probably know. I owned one of these way back when.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/85734508_1.jpg

[Mulv80]

STAMAS

[chumbucket]

Correct.
Length?
Need a length to move on. ;)

[charlie_the_tuna]

looks like a 26 or 27.
weight, 83,000 pounds.
1,100 horsepower.
top speed 11 knots.

[chumbucket]

26" is correct.
Those numbers are close. ;D
Actually, I repowered it to dump the original GM 250/6cyl and OMC. I glassed the transom to convert to Mercruiser I/O with GM 350 and Alpha OD. Went pretty decent. Should have coupled it to a Bravo drive for more prop. Gas consumption was horrid. :o
Fishing space was enormous and stable as hell. 8) Nice hardtop enclosure for all weather fishing. ;)

[TheTinMan]

Well. In order to "cheat", one must first have an idea of who the manufacturer was in the first place. No? ;D
So, if I think it's a Seamaster, then hop on over to Ebay, traderonline, or wherever to confirm my guess, I wouldn't call that cheating. Would you? ::) ;D ;D ;D

Thought maybe you called up MJ to find out about Seanmaster.
;D You ARE good....I would've never gotten Seamaster :-/

[chumbucket]

Nope. Don't need no help from that snowflake MJ.
Seamaster = Renken. Not good. :P
Someone needs to post another boat. Mulv? CTT? Someone?
Or else I'll step it up a bit and make things a bit more difficult. ;D

[Franco]

GIMME A MINUTE, I'LL DO IT

[Franco]

Try This one on for size!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Flafranco/1537974_1.jpg

[phester]

North Rip 24??

[TheTinMan]

Buddy Cannady 23??

[charlie_the_tuna]

buddy davis 27 ?

[TheTinMan]

Hey Buddy!

[charlie_the_tuna]

lets see if i can do this.



nope, guess not.

[Franco]

Not yet fellas! I've been to the boat yard where it was built. Wanna hint?

[TheTinMan]

Jarrett Bay?

[Skools Out]

i just want the boat lol brand who cares.

[Kajun]

28ft carolina classic

[chumbucket]

28ft carolina classic
Definately not Carolina Classic.
I'd agree with either the JB that Tin suggested or a Rybo. 8)

[bigshrimpin]

I'm pretty sure Tin and CB got this one already.

Jarrett Bay 27'

[bigshrimpin]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album80/DSCN5156_Medium.jpg

[Kajun]

16ft ugly duckling pro sport? ;D

[TheTinMan]

Evinrude 15

[chumbucket]

You're up Tin. Correct.

[reelapeelin]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album80/DSCN5156_Medium.jpg


If ya ran HARD AGROUND, you'd be the 1st one on the scene :o ...

[Franco]

Have I stumped you guys, That boat is built in North Carolina!

[chumbucket]

Franco. Is that a Shearline?

[Franco]

Not a shearline, sorry - no cigar

[Skools Out]

Harkers Island Carolina Custom 30 ? what part of the NC coast are they built? It looks alot like the JB or Jarrett Bay

[Skools Out]

Sculley Boat Builders?

it looks to cheap to be theirs actually.

[Skools Out]

Croswait Yachts?

http://croswaityachts.com/

[Skools Out]

Brooks Boatworks?

[Skools Out]

ALEX WILLIS BOATWORKS?

[Skools Out]

ISLAND BOATWORKS?

[Skools Out]

RICKY SCARBOROUGH BOAT BUILDERS?

[Skools Out]

Paul Mann Custom Boats?

[phester]

Franco. Is that a Shearline?
that was my next guess :-/

[Franco]

Skools one of those guesses was correct, Built in bueatiful downtown Wanchese NC.


It's a Ricky Scarborough 29'

[Skools Out]

lol man that was fun lol

Here's one that is a rarely seen boat but they ride like no other for their size

Need Brand and Model for this one.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/850395_2.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/85795_1.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/857295_3.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/85725_4.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/2222.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/720395_7.jpg

[chumbucket]

Hmmmmmmmmm. I have a couple of guesses Skools. But I'll go with my first instinct.
How about SeaRay Laguna. about 24'???

[Mulv80]

I think CB's got it

[Skools Out]

well guess i put to many pics lol yeah it's a Laguna by Sea Ray, but not a 24 it's their rare 1993 SR 270 Laguna measured 28'4" with pulpit big boy for those guys. Great Job CB

[chumbucket]

It was actually the first pic that made me think of it. ;)

[chumbucket]

Someone else pick up the next entry. I'm off to the hospital right now. :P

[Mulv80]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/rtmulv/8975_12.jpg

[TheTinMan]

C-Dory 25 ;D ;D

[Mulv80]

I put a fat one right down the plate for Tin to knock it out of the park. ;D

[TheTinMan]

;D ;D I was on their website about a month ago ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/boat1.jpg

[lumberslinger178]

pacemaker???

[TheTinMan]

pacemaker???


Nope and you need to guess the length too ;)

[phester]

doubtfully......a Luhrs 29 ???

[TheTinMan]

doubtfully......a Luhrs 29 ???
nope,
bah....next

[Skools Out]

i can't remember the brand but isn't the motors under the 2 seats on each side at the cabin door?

Is it a Bertram 31 Sportfish

[TheTinMan]

nope, but the Bertram 31 does have a simliar engine layout.

[Skools Out]

is it a Bertram though?

[TheTinMan]

is it a Bertram though?

no

[Skools Out]

Chris-Craft 310 Commander

Chris-Craft 360 Commander

[Skools Out]

Egg Harbor 32

or

Egg Harbor 36

[TheTinMan]

no egg

[Skools Out]

how about the Chris Craft 31 and 36 listed?

Blackfin 29

[TheTinMan]

ooppss...missed that one....no Chris.

[Skools Out]

Tin i don't think anyone else is playing ugh well i'm going to rest my brain and think on it for a few i'll post more thoughts soon

[TheTinMan]

you're on the right track...it's a well known make, think smaller though ;)

[Skools Out]

lol i didn't know they built one but found a

WELLCRAFT SPORTBRIDGE 280

that looks like it

[TheTinMan]

right size, wrong make

[Skools Out]

Topaz Sportfisher 28

[TheTinMan]

lol....nope

[Skools Out]

RAMPAGE 28 ?

Have i asked about Blackfin 28 ?


or last guess Skipjack 280 ?

[TheTinMan]

no, no and no.

[TheTinMan]

cabin pic :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/cabin.jpg

[Seacrets]

Hey Skools, where can I find info on the 270 Laguna? I owned a 97 24' Laguna and I'd like to take a look at the 270. I checked the Sea Ray archives and I can't find any info. I also owned a 270 Amberjack and I loved the ride with a 10' beam and overall 28'3". Thanks for your help in advance.

[charlie_the_tuna]

28 hatt?

[Skools Out]

hey Sea i foundthat one on Yachtworld.com but i think it's on boattrader too. they were asking $24,500 i think but not sure on price. i'd like to have it myself, i love the ride those have, i like the 250 Fisherman Sea Ray i have. they are same but walk around version called 250FC SeaRays built from 86 to 89 i think, you'll find a few 280FC ones too.


Tin is that a Hatteras 28 fisherman

[V20Twin]

looks like a 28' hatt to me also

[TheTinMan]

Tin is that a Hatteras 28 fisherman

YES....guess that cabin pic gave it away
:D

[Skools Out]

Ok maybe easy but you won't cheat with this pic on ebay nor any boat sells page lol, i took it last yr after the hurricane by my dock, Guess the Make & Model.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/hurricane064.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/hurricane070.jpg

[Mulv80]

19' Carolina Skiff

[Skools Out]

nope

[Mulv80]

Southern Skimmer ???

[Skools Out]

nope

[charlie_the_tuna]

maritime skiff?

[charlie_the_tuna]

man, i wish i could figure out how to post pics. . . .
i saw some great ones.

[chumbucket]

This'll be a bit more difficult as there are so many boats with that same hull design.
How about Sundance Skiff?

[charlie_the_tuna]

something skiff?

[Skools Out]

nope to all so far lol

[chumbucket]

Like I said. There's too many that use almost identical hulls to tell the difference. :P

[Mulv80]

That last one is a Wellcraft 248, is it my turn to post ;D

[chumbucket]

Kirkland?
Baysport Super Skiff?
SeaPro?
Riddick Bay Runner?

[Skools Out]

lol nope let me help it doesn't have Skiff in it's name

[chumbucket]

A skiff by any other name is still a skiff. ;D

[chumbucket]

Kirkland?
Baysport Super Skiff?
SeaPro?
Riddick Bay Runner?
Ridthingy? WTH is that? Supposed to be Rid-d-i-c-k ::)

[Mulv80]

Hurricane ;D

[TheTinMan]

Polar?

[Skools Out]

nope do you guys need a size to help ?

[TheTinMan]

nope do you guys need a size to help ?


No, we need a better boat than that flat, square piece of doody ;D ;D

[phester]

Docksmash 19' :-/

[chumbucket]

No, we need a better boat than that flat, square piece of doody ;D ;D
;DExactly. Everything mentioned thus far are all the same. So, by default, I think there's a correct answer there somewhere. ;D

[Skools Out]

lol ok you all are small the model number of that boat is a 2003 yr and model length 2400XL

[chumbucket]

So, it's a 2003 24' flat, square piece of doody then. Right? ;D

[Skools Out]

have you all given up?

[Skools Out]

ok the new model for this yr is 2460 does that help

[chumbucket]

have you all given up?
Yes

[chumbucket]

ok the new model for this yr is 2460 does that help
No. You win. ::)
I still maintain that it's a;
2003 Carolinasundancepolarseaprohurricanebaysportkirkla nd 2460XL
Do I win now?

[Skools Out]

man i finally stumped all lol

2003 KenCraft
Bay Rider 2400XL

http://www.kencraftboats.com/images/BR/2460.jpg

http://www.kencraftboats.com/bayrider/2460.html

So now you know lol.

[Skools Out]

ok next let see how good you are CB

What brand was on the other side of me dock

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/hurricane077.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Other%20Boats/hurricane078.jpg

[Kajun]

cape horn

[TheTinMan]

OK....how bout this one?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/1631382_1.jpg

[Kajun]

seacraft 27

[Skools Out]

kajun that upside down boat was a 13 ft Boston Whaler

[chumbucket]

Kajun. Where do you get this stuff?LMAO ;D

First one looks like a 13' Boston Whaler.

[chumbucket]

Wow. We posted at the same time Skools. ;D

[chumbucket]

Three boats come to mind on the second one.
Blackfin? 27

[Skools Out]

great job i knew it would be easy due to one of a kind hull that boat i asked for the guy said he was going to have it fixed then i saw it 2 weeks later sitting by the road cut into 3 pieces with a chainsaw ugh man i wished he had just given it to me.

[TheTinMan]

Not Seacraft or Blackfin

[chumbucket]

Yeah. The more I look at it. I also think it's not a Blackfin.
Shamrock?

[chumbucket]

Might be wrong again. But, I think I know. ;)

[TheTinMan]

No Shamrock.

[chumbucket]

Hmmmmm. Running out of ideas pretty quick.
Howz about a 28' Topaz?

[TheTinMan]

28' ::)

[Skools Out]

Dusky

[chumbucket]

24' ;)

[TheTinMan]

24' ;)


BINGO! 24 Topaz


:P

I'd love to finish this one;

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=112027&start=1

[Skools Out]

yaaa *look at this wild thing i just found

You'd never guess here's its link
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/0/82731740.htm

http://images.traderonline.com/img/6/dealer/742165/82731740_2.jpg

[chumbucket]

WTH is that? :o ::)
I won't even begin to guess on that one. :P

[chumbucket]

That's a beauty Tin. 8)

[Skools Out]

me either that's why i gave the link they want a ton for it oo with no motor it's a full inboard too.

[chumbucket]

Next up. My brother had one of these many moons ago. Fun little boat that we fished the hell out of.
http://images.traderonline.com/EMedia/tarchive2/101/304332/00086582E11.jpg

[TheTinMan]

MFG 15 ???

[Skools Out]

that looks like an old Thunderbird lol

[chumbucket]

Tin has the length correct.
No MFG.
No Thunderbird.

[TheTinMan]

Winner?

[chumbucket]

Nope

[chumbucket]

This one's from a major boat manufacturer that you all know, but wouldn't think of in a boat of this size and design. They didn't offer this one for very long.

[phatdaddy]

15 ft Cabo

The on skools posted is a layfette net boat.
Very popular in louisana. They pile the net on the rear platform so it is easy to pull in and set out. It's an inboard so the prop won't interfer with the net.

[TheTinMan]

Mako 15?

Hmmm..I'd say perhaps a 1974 model 151 with a 1999 Yamaha 50 4s and a 2006 Continental trailer, looks like it was serviced maybe in Feb. 06....By the color of the house and the St. Augustine grass and that hedge, I'd say that the boat is located in Ft. Lauderdale...just a wild guess though ;D

[chumbucket]

That's a pretty detailed wild guess. Yessir. You got it. Only one of it's kind on boattrader. ;)

[TheTinMan]

Only one of it's kind on boattrader. ;)

Wow! It's really on boatrader??? :)

[chumbucket]

Yeah. I know it never occurred to you to look there. ;) ::)

[TheTinMan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/1582416_1.jpg

[chumbucket]

Kicking it up a notch are we? ;D

[TheTinMan]

Kicking it up a notch are we? ;D


What??? You don't like my dinghy? ;)

[TheTinMan]

OK....back to reality then...should be easy.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/1283045_5.jpg

[chumbucket]

Those big SF's are where you loose me.

18' Wahoo.

[TheTinMan]

Those big SF's are where you loose me.

18' Wahoo.

Yes....figured someone would guess "Whaler" first....can't pull the wool over your eyes though! :)

[chumbucket]

Close in design to Whaler, but subtle differences. I worked for Whaler way back when they were in my home town. 8)

[TheTinMan]

I've been in the Whaler factory in Edgewater, FL a few times. A buddy of mine has the HVAC contract there and worked with him a bit.

[lumberslinger178]

I worked at jersey boats for a yr when I was just out of high school ....it was an ok job

[phatdaddy]

CB, are you familar with the "Dell Quay" ,I think, it is a British knock off of a Whaler. I have a 66 13 ft whaler that we scallop out of.

[chumbucket]

Yeah. I'm familiar with them. There's a couple in my neighborhood. Everyone calls them a Whaler knockoff, but to be honest, the similarities end at it being a cathedral hull. I personally see distinct differences that make them easy to distinguish from a Whaler. I don't know much else about them regarding quality or seaworthy capabilities, so I wouldn't want to comment any further on them. Probably as wet as any other cathedral hull though. ;D

[TheTinMan]

CB...you're up, Dude.....next pic! ;)

[chumbucket]

What's this down to me and you in a Mexican standoff? ;D

[charlie_the_tuna]

i'll tell ya why. cause i cant figure out how to put up a picture. thats why.

[TheTinMan]

No, I ain't stupid...you'll win! You are da man....at small boats anyway. ;D

[TheTinMan]

i'll tell ya why. cause i cant figure out how to put up a picture. thats why.

you've posted pics before....smiley???

[chumbucket]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/1616384_16.jpg

[chumbucket]

i'll tell ya why. cause i cant figure out how to put up a picture. thats why.
Yeah. What's up wit dat? You've posted pics before when you were on your "god" quest. ??? ::) We got to teach you all over again?

[TheTinMan]

That lapstrake look??? I wanna say Captiva but the laps are to wide. Whatever it is..I like it!

[chumbucket]

I thought you would. Expensive boat for what it is. I liked them more when they were reasonably priced.
Not a Captiva.

[TheTinMan]

I can't even cheat...you saved this one to photobucket :'(

[chumbucket]

;) ;D

[TheTinMan]

It's not a well known Co., is it? New England Co, right?

[chumbucket]

Yup. Keep sniffing. You're on the trail.

No wild guesses as to the town that one is in or anything? ;D ;D ;D

[TheTinMan]

Bar Harbor?

[chumbucket]

Nah.
hint; It's made here in Mass.

[chumbucket]

Was that a pin I just heard drop? ;D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/blah.gif
Come on Tin. You know what needs to be done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/bow.gif

[reelapeelin]

Is that C-Dory?...

[TheTinMan]

Lowell?

[chumbucket]

;D Check them out. I especially like the 21' model. ;D

http://www.rothbiltboats.com/

[TheTinMan]

Where is Roth!!! I thought of them but ruled them out :-/

[charlie_the_tuna]

yeah, i can post my own to photobucket and then to here but i cant figure out how to just take a picture online and bring it here.

[TheTinMan]

yeah, i can post my own to photobucket and then to here but i cant figure out how to just take a picture online and bring it here.

Right click any pic on web, click "save as", save it to your desktop so it's easy to find, then upload to PB.

[macojoe]

yeah, i can post my own to photobucket and then to here but i cant figure out how to just take a picture online and bring it here.

you can't put the pic right here unless you save to your computer and upload to PB first.

but you can copy paste the address bar and put a link here.

[charlie_the_tuna]

yeah but if i paste the address bar, the whole thing with description will show up and then it wont be much of a surprise.

[TheTinMan]

do what I said. Try it.

[charlie_the_tuna]

ok, here goes.



http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/fishmaster63/silverline.jpg

[charlie_the_tuna]

that first one was my second boat. this one was my first boat.



http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/fishmaster63/glaspar.jpg

[chumbucket]

That first one is a mid '70's Silverline. I'll guess about 17'.

[charlie_the_tuna]

one of my alltime favorites.




http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/fishmaster63/pacemaker.jpg

[chumbucket]

Ya got me on that second one. ???

[charlie_the_tuna]

pretty dam good chumster.

and super close.

manufacturer, correct.

length, almost.

[chumbucket]

Easy does it CTT. You don't want to burn yourself out too soon. One at a time. ::)Play by the rules. ;D