Verado experiences, Grady and Angler...

[Airslot]

I noticed that Verados were mentioned in a fishing thread. I fished a 2006 Angler 21 WA with a 150 Verado yesterdat. Nice boat and awesome power. The Verado system is really something. Running 3800 r's at 25 mph and burning 5.8 to 6 gph. While that was nice the part that impressed me, nah, blew me away, was that it trolled at 2.5 knots at get this, .3 gallons per hour. THan dang thing will fish for an hour on 2 cups of friggin coffee. As for the boat, it was nice but I'll keep my V20.

Now the other boat is a 2005 Grady 282 Sailfish that the owner ordered new and told them to keep the Yams. Merc bent over backward to get once of the very first pairs of 250's on that boat. It's nice having a great Merc dealer as a friend / neighbor. Anyhow, the twin 250's are no louder than the single 150. Awesome machine but outa my league. I have operated that boat for maybe 15 hours and it a pleasure to fish.

The said part is, the Verado 150 weighs 539 pounds dry. My good friend and neighbor knows that my next motor will likely be the Suzy 150 / 175 becasue of the weight issue. That, and I don't believe that the Verado is a motor to buy and keep for ten years. While I love them now, when a motor with that little displacement with those boost pressures goes boom, it's gonna be expensive.

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[Airslot]

I noticed that Verados were mentioned in a fishing thread. I fished a 2006 Angler 21 WA with a 150 Verado yesterdat. Nice boat and awesome power. The Verado system is really something. Running 3800 r's at 25 mph and burning 5.8 to 6 gph. While that was nice the part that impressed me, nah, blew me away, was that it trolled at 2.5 knots at get this, .3 gallons per hour. THan dang thing will fish for an hour on 2 cups of friggin coffee. As for the boat, it was nice but I'll keep my V20.

Now the other boat is a 2005 Grady 282 Sailfish that the owner ordered new and told them to keep the Yams. Merc bent over backward to get once of the very first pairs of 250's on that boat. It's nice having a great Merc dealer as a friend / neighbor. Anyhow, the twin 250's are no louder than the single 150. Awesome machine but outa my league. I have operated that boat for maybe 15 hours and it a pleasure to fish.

The said part is, the Verado 150 weighs 539 pounds dry. My good friend and neighbor knows that my next motor will likely be the Suzy 150 / 175 becasue of the weight issue. That, and I don't believe that the Verado is a motor to buy and keep for ten years. While I love them now, when a motor with that little displacement with those boost pressures goes boom, it's gonna be expensive.

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[macojoe]

Well I have heard good and bad about the ne merc. But I have never liked them and I won't start now.

But I have been hearing lots of good things about the new Suzy!
I know a guy that bought his last year and he has nothing but great things to say about it!!

As for me, I have been a Johnson/Yamaha guy for a long time!
That said as much as I like Yamaha, n they are just way over priced IMO!!
Not that I can afford a new motor in the first place!! I can't afford a used motor

But if I had a wish list I guess it would be a 150 to 200 Johnson, Yamaha or Suzy

[macojoe]

Well I have heard good and bad about the ne merc. But I have never liked them and I won't start now.

But I have been hearing lots of good things about the new Suzy!
I know a guy that bought his last year and he has nothing but great things to say about it!!

As for me, I have been a Johnson/Yamaha guy for a long time!
That said as much as I like Yamaha, n they are just way over priced IMO!!
Not that I can afford a new motor in the first place!! I can't afford a used motor

But if I had a wish list I guess it would be a 150 to 200 Johnson, Yamaha or Suzy

[sfprovyn]

A guy down the creek from me has a new Mako 19 Angler with a Verado 150 on it . A VERY expensive , heavy, low cubic inch, computer complicated engine loaded with all the bells and whistles including power steering , supercharged this and that etc. It gets outstanding gas mileage at low to mid throttle but if you run it flat out its a gas hog. In my opinion this is what Mercury will probably end up with as their only big engine in a couple of years as the Opti started off on the wrong foot and burned a lot of guys (me included) and has not caught on plus Mercury has still got a bad reputation regarding warranty claims and service..I hope they get their act together and hang in there but I will never buy another merc as I had major problelms with the three I've had plus poor customer service..The good news is that there will be a supply of low hour 2 strokes for sale for a few years that probably just need the carbs cleaned for a fourth of the price of a new 4 stroke that few mechanics feel comfortable working on...I also know a guy with a new Suzuki 250 four stroke on his 20 foot whaler and he loves it. Its quiet, excellent gas mileage , very high cubic inch but heavy and sits right at the scupper line but a nice running motor and I see more and more of them every day. This guy had had a 1998 225 Johnny ocean runner on it that had less than 400 hours which to me was just about broken in...Just my opinion ...Frank

[sfprovyn]

A guy down the creek from me has a new Mako 19 Angler with a Verado 150 on it . A VERY expensive , heavy, low cubic inch, computer complicated engine loaded with all the bells and whistles including power steering , supercharged this and that etc. It gets outstanding gas mileage at low to mid throttle but if you run it flat out its a gas hog. In my opinion this is what Mercury will probably end up with as their only big engine in a couple of years as the Opti started off on the wrong foot and burned a lot of guys (me included) and has not caught on plus Mercury has still got a bad reputation regarding warranty claims and service..I hope they get their act together and hang in there but I will never buy another merc as I had major problelms with the three I've had plus poor customer service..The good news is that there will be a supply of low hour 2 strokes for sale for a few years that probably just need the carbs cleaned for a fourth of the price of a new 4 stroke that few mechanics feel comfortable working on...I also know a guy with a new Suzuki 250 four stroke on his 20 foot whaler and he loves it. Its quiet, excellent gas mileage , very high cubic inch but heavy and sits right at the scupper line but a nice running motor and I see more and more of them every day. This guy had had a 1998 225 Johnny ocean runner on it that had less than 400 hours which to me was just about broken in...Just my opinion ...Frank

[Skools Out]

problem i've heard with the supercharged motor is not only does it suck in air and force it in the motor but also SALT air and spray and force salt into the motor and them after you let sit they are seized up 6 months later.

[Skools Out]

problem i've heard with the supercharged motor is not only does it suck in air and force it in the motor but also SALT air and spray and force salt into the motor and them after you let sit they are seized up 6 months later.

[sfprovyn]

I also understand from a mechanic friend that if you run em out of gas they will blow up in hundreds of pieces...Frank

[sfprovyn]

I also understand from a mechanic friend that if you run em out of gas they will blow up in hundreds of pieces...Frank

[bigshrimpin]

I've been out fishing a few times in my friends seacraft23 with the new 250 Suzuki. That motor blows my mind everytime I ride in the boat. Quiet, super efficent, and has unbelieveable hole shot (with the low ratio and big prop)

I bet the zuke 150/175 would be an awesome combo on the v20.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/suzuki%20250/DSCN5176.JPG

[bigshrimpin]

I've been out fishing a few times in my friends seacraft23 with the new 250 Suzuki. That motor blows my mind everytime I ride in the boat. Quiet, super efficent, and has unbelieveable hole shot (with the low ratio and big prop)

I bet the zuke 150/175 would be an awesome combo on the v20.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/suzuki%20250/DSCN5176.JPG

[phester]

nice Seacraft !

[phester]

nice Seacraft !

[Airslot]

One of these days...that 150 Zuke will be hangin around here I hope.

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[Airslot]

One of these days...that 150 Zuke will be hangin around here I hope.

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[garycorbett]

Sorry, but the Merc experience is BAD BAD; verado is too expensive and too heavy. The Evinrude ETec is the one to get - easier on gas, faster and lighter than verado by a long shot. At idle the ETec burns no more fuel than a 9 hp at idle. Easier on gas than verado at full speed and faster too. And the Evinrudes sound like a motor! Always love the sound of them big V6 Evinrudes!

[garycorbett]

Sorry, but the Merc experience is BAD BAD; verado is too expensive and too heavy. The Evinrude ETec is the one to get - easier on gas, faster and lighter than verado by a long shot. At idle the ETec burns no more fuel than a 9 hp at idle. Easier on gas than verado at full speed and faster too. And the Evinrudes sound like a motor! Always love the sound of them big V6 Evinrudes!

[sfprovyn]

I talked to a guy the other day at the gas dock that had a new 90 E-tech and was very impressed. I was suprised as he used to run a yammie carbed 2 stroke 115 on his skiff . I wonder if they will be johnnyrudes or just an evinrude market deal or if any old johnson dealer can work on them. I wonder how much a 115 saltwater version would go for with controls etc. The zukie 4 strokes have really taken over down here in eastern north carolina with dealers everwhere, high customer satisfaction , 6 year warranties , excellent customer service that you dont need to take them to court over ( which I had to do with Merc) etc etc. Even the commercial on the water every day water men are running zukies with yammies a close second especially the 115 4 stroke.. A good friend of mine is a Merc dealer and I can get anything at his cost but after the last Opti 225( two catastropic power head failures in less than 150 hours and the second one was 26 miles off shore) I dont think I could ever run another Merc but thats just me..Frank

[sfprovyn]

I talked to a guy the other day at the gas dock that had a new 90 E-tech and was very impressed. I was suprised as he used to run a yammie carbed 2 stroke 115 on his skiff . I wonder if they will be johnnyrudes or just an evinrude market deal or if any old johnson dealer can work on them. I wonder how much a 115 saltwater version would go for with controls etc. The zukie 4 strokes have really taken over down here in eastern north carolina with dealers everwhere, high customer satisfaction , 6 year warranties , excellent customer service that you dont need to take them to court over ( which I had to do with Merc) etc etc. Even the commercial on the water every day water men are running zukies with yammies a close second especially the 115 4 stroke.. A good friend of mine is a Merc dealer and I can get anything at his cost but after the last Opti 225( two catastropic power head failures in less than 150 hours and the second one was 26 miles off shore) I dont think I could ever run another Merc but thats just me..Frank

[Mac_Attack]

Evinrude e tec made in USA! Billy Mac ;D

[Mac_Attack]

Evinrude e tec made in USA! Billy Mac ;D

[garycorbett]

I got a 2002 115 hp Ficht Evinrude and it is just a great motor; veryyyyyyyyy quiet; the pee stream out the back makes more noise at idle than the motor. Easy on gas - no troubles at all. Nice looking to. Stay away from Merc - all BAD

[garycorbett]

I got a 2002 115 hp Ficht Evinrude and it is just a great motor; veryyyyyyyyy quiet; the pee stream out the back makes more noise at idle than the motor. Easy on gas - no troubles at all. Nice looking to. Stay away from Merc - all BAD

[reelapeelin]

Don't know the long-term down-sides to Verado yet, but right now I gotta tell ya this 250's SWEET as 10x sugar ;) 8) ...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/reelapeelin/P9110074.jpg

[reelapeelin]

Don't know the long-term down-sides to Verado yet, but right now I gotta tell ya this 250's SWEET as 10x sugar ;) 8) ...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/reelapeelin/P9110074.jpg

[sfprovyn]

I wish merc well and I hope they hang in there with better products and customer service managers. I had a bullet proff 83 black max 150 for 11 years that I am sure is still going strong but the last few years have been a slippery slope for Merc and you can count on one thing if you blow one up...you are on your own..even if its under warranty they will try to make it look like you were neglectful. If I had not had a good friend who is a major dealer go to bat for me I would of really been screwed..They knew from the get go that the early opti's were trouble but rather that recall them they let hundreds of guys blow them up and only made good on the ones who were in the one year warranty and screwed everyone else. Frank

[sfprovyn]

I wish merc well and I hope they hang in there with better products and customer service managers. I had a bullet proff 83 black max 150 for 11 years that I am sure is still going strong but the last few years have been a slippery slope for Merc and you can count on one thing if you blow one up...you are on your own..even if its under warranty they will try to make it look like you were neglectful. If I had not had a good friend who is a major dealer go to bat for me I would of really been screwed..They knew from the get go that the early opti's were trouble but rather that recall them they let hundreds of guys blow them up and only made good on the ones who were in the one year warranty and screwed everyone else. Frank

[reelapeelin]

Frank, there are several ''truths'' in what you said, most important being having the right dealer in your corner...My buddy in Charleston has two 1999 Opti-Max 200s on his boat since new...for the most part they have been GREAT motors, although several issues have come up and been resolved in my friend's favor BECAUSE of his dealer...

When buyin' a new outboard, there's just no way to over-stress the importance of WHO you get it from...probably more important than who MADE it...when I got my motor in '04 we had a time w/ proppin' it...our 1st try had great numbers, but caused a ''rattle'' in the lower unit...not knowing what caused it at the time, my dealer had a Honda Tech in Spartanburg and hangin' off my transom goin' across the lake w/ in 3 days...yeah, I was impressed...but the DEALER is the guy who made it happen... ;) ...

[reelapeelin]

Frank, there are several ''truths'' in what you said, most important being having the right dealer in your corner...My buddy in Charleston has two 1999 Opti-Max 200s on his boat since new...for the most part they have been GREAT motors, although several issues have come up and been resolved in my friend's favor BECAUSE of his dealer...

When buyin' a new outboard, there's just no way to over-stress the importance of WHO you get it from...probably more important than who MADE it...when I got my motor in '04 we had a time w/ proppin' it...our 1st try had great numbers, but caused a ''rattle'' in the lower unit...not knowing what caused it at the time, my dealer had a Honda Tech in Spartanburg and hangin' off my transom goin' across the lake w/ in 3 days...yeah, I was impressed...but the DEALER is the guy who made it happen... ;) ...

[sfprovyn]

I can think of several mercury techs that I would like to see hanging off my transom....Frank

[sfprovyn]

I can think of several mercury techs that I would like to see hanging off my transom....Frank

[reelapeelin]

Betcha some would like to see some Merc dealers in same way!! ;) ...

[reelapeelin]

Betcha some would like to see some Merc dealers in same way!! ;) ...

[willy]

From what I am seeing around my area the Suzuki's have become what the Yamaha's were 15 years ago, knocking out the competition in a heads up comparison and standing by their product. Best warranty and everyone I know that has one is tickled pink by them. I got to tell you though everyone is jumping on them now with their new 4 strokes I have a 9.9 Suzuki from 1986. It has never skipped a beat, is built hell for stout and after being on three tin boats with me it is now serving back up trolling duties on Old School. And that little sucker pushes that V around like it is on steroids. One of the guys in town that just sold his boat had twin Zuki 250 two strokes on his 26 foot WA and he said even though he had over 900 hrs on them in the salt he had never had to do anything to them besides change the plugs and thermostats.

[willy]

From what I am seeing around my area the Suzuki's have become what the Yamaha's were 15 years ago, knocking out the competition in a heads up comparison and standing by their product. Best warranty and everyone I know that has one is tickled pink by them. I got to tell you though everyone is jumping on them now with their new 4 strokes I have a 9.9 Suzuki from 1986. It has never skipped a beat, is built hell for stout and after being on three tin boats with me it is now serving back up trolling duties on Old School. And that little sucker pushes that V around like it is on steroids. One of the guys in town that just sold his boat had twin Zuki 250 two strokes on his 26 foot WA and he said even though he had over 900 hrs on them in the salt he had never had to do anything to them besides change the plugs and thermostats.