Brass drain tube ?

[steplift20]

Did anybody ever have to change the drain tube on the bottom of the transom? I came back Sunday from fishing and when I took the drain plug out the actually 1/2 then drain tube came out with it now I have to replace it. I ordered the parts on Amazon just wondering how difficult it would be.

[spareparts]

I've done it several times, but now I use epoxy coated pvc tubing instead. Pathfinder boats uses this method and I believe it does a better job of sealing the transom. Just find the correct size of pvc for your rubber plug to fit(cant remember size off hand), open up the transom hole size with a hole saw(also easy way to remove the brass tube). Dry it out well(either method). Coat the pvc with epoxy(silicone for eth brass tube) and install. With the brass tube, you will need to cut it to fit and flare the ends, they make a tool for this. With the pvc, let it dry, then cut to fit, sand to get a closer fit

[steplift20]

Do you feel the pvc tube is better or easier, I ordered the kit from Amazon 3 inch tube, adhesive and flaring tool , the hole that the tube was I I did pull out the half of the tube that was left in and the wood in the tube is wet so I'm letting it dry .

[phatdaddy]

I did the PVC tube in my Whaler. Works great, did it exactly like Spare described. Test fit the rubber plug, but i used 3/4 PR200 pipe, thin wall. Do not use sch 40 id is too small

I believe i used a rat tail file in a drill to expand and clean up my existing hole. Coated hole with thinned epoxy, then coated pvc with slightly thickened epoxy and inserted and rotated to smear goo

I ll try to get a pic tomorrow

[steplift20]

So the tubes are not flared at the ends, just insert the tube and what kind of epoxy do you use? The name and you use the same stuff to coat the inside of the hole and the outside of the tube,
So you have the tube sticking out and cut in even with the hull, sounds good and easy too

[spareparts]

If you already have the brass tube coming, go ahead and use it, it lasted this long. I used life caulk on the last one I did. For the pvc, I generally have some west system laying around

[phatdaddy]

Your gonna need a flaring tool for the brass tube install

[steplift20]

I have it coming, Amazon sells the tube,the flaring tool and 1 oz of 5200 it's all coming . I never used the flaring tool but on you tube the flared end goes inside the boat and you flare the outside I hope it works out good. My boat is a 78 so like you I figured if it lasted over 40 years I will just replace it with the brass sleeve but I do like your PVC pipe idea it sounds very good.

[steplift20]

Should I heat the end of the brass tube that I'm going to flare? I watched YouTube and that's what this guy did,he said it softens the brass Heat it the put it in cold water?

[phatdaddy]

Hey Step. I know you already installed the brass one, but here are the pics of a PVC one

https://i.imgur.com/rL1u8edl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GddXWvol.jpg

[steplift20]

The ends of the PVC are not flared? You just insert it and epoxy it in place and works good? Doesn't turn, doesn't move? Mine is in and looks good I find use 5200 so that should lock it in place I hope.brass tube made in China that I don't like.

[spareparts]

i use epoxy on the pvc tube, I dont think 5200 will fail, I just prefer the bond of epoxy. You can sand the outward edge of the pvc tube flush with the hull. Makes a very finished looking job. Pathfinder boats use this method

[steplift20]

Looks great spareparts.

[Dana A]

Problem I see in epoxy is it does not expand and contract with heat and cold as 5200 does.
Not sure of the epoxy bond factor on the Chinese brass
5200 for anything permanent below the waterline
4200 for anything that might need replacement down the road

I’m doing the brass w/ 5200 and a bronze hull /garboard plug as the boat will be in the water full time

[spareparts]

with the brass, I use 5200, on the pvc i use epoxy