Can you see through your clear vinyl?

[inaforty]

Been thinking about this idea for awhile.

Are any of the members here on V20 interested in getting their front panel clear vinyl replaced? I can swap in new 30 gauge rolled double polished clear vinyl using 138 Bonded Dabond thread for $150.00. This will include shipping back to you.

Few things first....
1) maximum height for a front panel 26" however the length doesn't matter.
2)some of the lower snaps might have to removed then reinstalled which I will do before shipping it back to you. This is done so the clear vinyl can be stitched into place without running into the snaps with the needle etc.
3) The 138 Bonded Dabond is a anti-wicking polyester with UV resistance. It's not a PTFE lifetime thread. If you're in a southern state you might want to have me use a PTFE thread which will be $20 more.
4) The 30 gauge rolled vinyl is a very good quality vinyl and works well with the V20. The clarity is fairly good. The 30 gauge is one step thinner then I use on larger sport fisher which is a 40 gauge. However...... It's not pressed vinyl or pressed treated vinyl (strata, O'sea)which is a higher grade vinyl.
5)This job would be done using your existing panel. This way your snaps and zippers will stay in place so everything will fit. Only thing changing is the clear vinyl.
6) I will ship back to you via UPS.

Here are a few photos of the 30 gauge used in a front V20 panel.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/20161123_155335_zpscgyybvo5.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/20161123_155335_zpscgyybvo5.jpg.html)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/20161123_155350_zps74rp0jtp.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/20161123_155350_zps74rp0jtp.jpg.html)

Not sure if this would be of any interest to anyone.
If you have any question or interest in having the work done you can PM me or email me at
pingmarinecanvas(at)gmail.com

I checked in with MacoJoe to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules.

Great deal for members and it keeps me from sitting on the couch waiting for the Bruins to come on at 7 pm.

[Destroyer]

Not long ago Barry (Inaforty) gave me an enclosure that he had lying around. Before he sent it to me he replaced the front panel just like he's talking about here. I can and will attest to the fact that his work is first class. In fact it's better than most shops I've dealt with in the past. Perfect, tight stitching. The quality of his work is self evident. If you need new panels and want people to say :nic: he is the man. Period!!

[inaforty]

Destroyer,
Thanks for the kind words and endorsement.
Hope you can get the enclosure to fit.

[phatdaddy]

Inaforty, let me do some measuring on mine, but it sounds like a plan

[inaforty]

Phat,
Sounds good.
I knocked out a windscreen for a 30' Scarab on Monday.
Wish I would have taken a photo of the old Strataglass.
Nice and clear!
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/20161128_120826_zpsvilcw4bs.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/20161128_120826_zpsvilcw4bs.jpg.html)

[phatdaddy]

Wow, by redoing my vinyl, it'll turn into a 30 scarab, i'm in!!!

Back to reality, i'll get the measurements tomorrow. If i make some paper patterns, could you make me some "wing walls".

[Striper80]

I don't have a v20 but can't see through my windshield. Would the plastic be able to make the turn like my cheap factory plastic.

[inaforty]

Phat,
I can make the side panels for you but attaching them to the top and front panel is were it gets tricky.
If you lay out your pattern you have to take into consideration how and were it's going attach at the top and bottom and to the front. So if you need zippers installed you have to mark where they go and the beginning and end of each zipper also which end is the starting point and also what half of the zipper installed (the part with the slider or the part with the post).
Most side panels attach to the top with a zipper and side to front panels are zippers also.

If you have the old side panels that would make positioning all the attachment points much easier.

[inaforty]

Striper,
I have almost the exact same boat as you. I believe my vinyl panels are original and sadly are in need replacement. Pretty sure although I might be wrong the factory used a 20 gauge vinyl.
Yes the 30 gauge would be able to make the bend/turn around to meet the side panel. I have used 40 gauge to make bends on panels on large flybridge boats. Not a problem to use the heavier gauge material. The heavier stuff usually last longer however it is harder to work with when sewing etc.

[Striper80]

That's good to know. Hopefully when I go over my off season list I'll be able ad this in.

Having owned both a v20 and the 23 how do they compare in ride? I've never driven a v20 only fished on my uncles. Hopefully when he gets rid of it I'll pick it up and restore it.

[inaforty]

Striper,
To me the boats feel much different.

The V 20 feels more nimble and can stay on plane at a slower speed.

The 22-23 footer honestly gives the feel of a better ride probably because of where you sit further back on the boat. I also feel the ride is a little drier.

The cockpit is huge on a V 20 compare to the 22-23 footer. However there isn't anywhere the usable space in the V 20 cuddy versus the 22-23 footer.

If I was running a rough section of water.. inlet,bar,hole,channel like a white knuckle ride I would prefer the V 20.

If I was running 30 miles home in sloppy conditions I might prefer the 22-23 footer due to the seating position and dryness. However a V 20 center console might run just as well but I have never been on a CC V 20.

Both are pretty good boats. We have run 20 miles home in the V 20 in 2-3 footer. We have had our 23 footer out in small craft but only about a 6 mile run.

Both boats run well in a following sea.

We swapped our V 20 on to the 23 footer trailer and didn't have to make a single adjustment. This tells me the running surface is close to the same.

Not sure I could choose one over the other.

[phatdaddy]

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo214/gls216/IMG_0057_zpsej996opn.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/user/gls216/media/IMG_0057_zpsej996opn.jpg.html)

this is the vinyl above the windshield, it's less than 29" in width.

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo214/gls216/IMG_0061_zpsronlesfk.jpg (http://s377.photobucket.com/user/gls216/media/IMG_0061_zpsronlesfk.jpg.html)

these are the "wing windows" i can make you a pattern from the side curtains

these are about 20 years old, so i guess there not too bad. i generally put them up around christmas and take them down at easter.

[inaforty]

Phat,
Looks good.
Are your side panel useable?
Or do you want them completely replaced?
If the side panels useable just send them along with the front panel and I will install new clear vinyl.

[Blue_Runner]

Wow, what a great offer. I really need this for mine. They are getting tired for sure. Think I'd opt for the thread upgrade also. Will PM.

[inaforty]

Blue,
Sounds good!

[phatdaddy]

i would do that, but the actual bimini is real thin and needs replacing also. it's about 24 years old and only been down for trips to the keys and hurricanes. the zippers are toast on the tops of the side panels and the sides of the top, so i've been zip tying it all together. i don't think i can get the frame apart to get the top off.

the guy who built mine is still in business and can;t believe this one is still standing. he;s been in through 2 buildings and 3 wives since he sewed this one.

[inaforty]

Phat,
You can send me the front panel and a pattern for the sides panels and I will duplicate your pattern for you. Make sure you mark the width of the binding around the clear vinyl and where you want me to add zippers or fasteners etc.

[phatdaddy]

I'll send you a pm

Thanks again

[bradford]

Forty, i no longer run a top, but just wanted to give you a thumbs up.

[inaforty]

Thanks Bradford.
Looking forward to getting started on these projects for the members of V 20.

Looks like I might be replacing the 3 forward panels for a 35 Viking soon. Should be an interesting project. Pretty sure that project will be done with Strata-glass.

[inaforty]

Just thought I would bring this back to the top.
If anyone is interested in getting their front panels repaired/replaced.
I've been busy with work since we had that 50 degree weekend in Feb.
Just completed a front curtain for a 23' Proline. This things was in bad shape. I don't think the guy will know it's the same curtain.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/proline%202_zpsp4dieyih.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/proline%202_zpsp4dieyih.jpg.html)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/proline%201_zpsukdacagn.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/proline%201_zpsukdacagn.jpg.html)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/proline%203_zpsxuyh1hhp.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/proline%203_zpsxuyh1hhp.jpg.html)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/proline%204_zpsmxywiiy2.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/proline%204_zpsmxywiiy2.jpg.html)

[macojoe]

Great looking job Barry!!!

[Destroyer]

Completely AWESOME!!! :clap::clap::clap::clap:

[inaforty]

Thanks for the compliments guys. My dream would be to quit my job and do this full time but common sense tells me not to.
Curtains from a 27' Stratos.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/20170227_094702_zpsdgncosv3.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/20170227_094702_zpsdgncosv3.jpg.html)

[cfelton]

Wow! You do some great work! If you ever run across a full, tall, three bow enclosure that would fit a 77 V cuddy let me know. Ive got a old top and side windows that came on the boat but its so short I bump my head on it when I stand up, and the canvas is rotten. The top snaps right down across the windshield, not much headroom and no front windows. My wifes uncle owns a top shop in Smithfield Va. and does great work. He gave me an estimate of around 2500.00 for a complete enclosure. I thought it was a good price, just haven't bit the bullet yet.

[inaforty]

The 2500.00 is a great price for a complete enclosure. Much of the cost is in the material. I did 3 sides on the above Stratos. Those 3 sides required 2 sheets of O'sea vinyl. The vinyl alone is close to $200 a sheet.

[bradford]

Looks great as usual Forty.

Enjoy seeing your projects.

[inaforty]

Bringing this post back to the top. I just started working in the canvas shop for the winter season. Anyone needing clear vinyl replaced give me a shout.
Looking for work to keep me from going crazy with cabin fever.

Before new vinyl..........
https://i.imgur.com/ZOvyWj9l.jpg


After with new vinyl.........
https://i.imgur.com/iKfYOD7l.jpg

[Destroyer]

You are THE man!!! Great work!!!! :clap::clap::clap:

[inaforty]

Thanks Destroyer!

[randlemanboater]

I am going to have to replace the fabric on my T-top and was going to get curtains made for my "new" boat, is that something you would be interested in doing inaforty?

Not sure how the logistics of that would work with you not being able to have access to the boat.

[inaforty]

Randleman,
I would love to replace the fabric/Sunbrella/Stamoid on your new boat but without the boat it's very tough to get a correct fit. I would really need the boat to pull the patterns.

[phatdaddy]

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[randlemanboater]

Randleman,
I would love to replace the fabric/Sunbrella/Stamoid on your new boat but without the boat it's very tough to get a correct fit. I would really need the boat to pull the patterns.

That's what I figured, but thought I would ask.

I will find someone around Wilmington Nc to do it once I get it down that way.

[Monkey Butler]

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phatdaddy,

I caught a glimpse of your pics before you removed them. You were looking for cushions for molded captains chairs, right. I've been playing with making these so if you're still looking for them if you repost I could see about doing them.

[inaforty]

How about these? Just did these for a 31' Camano trawler.
Navy Sunbrella...

http://i.imgur.com/eE5GODvl.jpg (https://imgur.com/eE5GODv)

http://i.imgur.com/7aEjzsDl.jpg (https://imgur.com/7aEjzsD)

The only trouble I see is getting the snaps to line up. Kind of need to add the snaps to the cushions while the cushion is on the molded seat.

[Destroyer]

Barry, what would a set of two chairs like that go for? Same material, same color, same piping. I can bring the chairs to you. Also, I have a Todd Cooler seat, one big cushion and a backrest. Vinyl is all cracked. Interested in making new covers? PM me. :)

[inaforty]

Destroyer,
Each set of cushions (top and bottom) is a yard of a Sunbrella, 10' of piping and a #5 zipper. So it breaks down like this....

1 yard of Sunbrella $30
10' of piping $10
#5 zipper $4
2x$25 labor $50........= $95 each set

To me it's sounds over priced but that is the cost of material and it usually takes me more then 2 hours to complete a set of cushions. I used the old foam and replace the moisture barrier.

Also I'm not sure Sunbrella would be best for a fishing boat. A high quality vinyl would probably be a better choice. The owner of the boat that I did the cushions for is a cruiser/trawler.

I'm not trying to talk you out of having me do the work but you can get a replacement set of cushions made in china for $70. However I'm not sure what material they use for the cushions.

Just trying to be honest as we are all friends here.

[Destroyer]

Ok, well, the vinyl seats are still in good condition so I guess I'll just stick with them.

But

The Todd Cooler seat is another story. and that's the seat that I intend to use for my little 16.5 Airslot. I'll take some pics in the next day or so and PM them to you for an estimate

[inaforty]

Sounds good. Going to make a cooler cushion for that Camano trawler later next month. I will post a picture when I'm done.

[inaforty]

Nasty when they come in looking like this.
http://i.imgur.com/ZAjDk0tl.jpg (https://imgur.com/ZAjDk0t)


All smiles when they leave looking like this.....
http://i.imgur.com/zuySUzyl.jpg (https://imgur.com/zuySUzy)