Matthew claims the Pipe Dream

[Pipe_Dream]

She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

[spareparts]

sorry to hear about the "Dream":sad:

[Destroyer]

UGH!! Very sorry to hear about your boat. But on the good side, as you said, your home and your family were spared. And truly that's the most important thing. As far as the boat goes, they are remarkably resilient. Unless there was major structural damage (Hull breach for example) there's no reason to scrap her. The engine is another story, best told by Ferm or Spare. But I would think the Pipe Dream herself may be salvagable.

[tsubaki]

Sorry to hear that Pipe.
Glad to hear y'all and the house are ok!
Thanks for checking in with us!

[phatdaddy]

the good news is, you have insurance and i've heard boatus is the best one to deal with. the only experience i've had is a key largo that sank at the dock due to getting caught under the stringers at low tide, then when tide came in, flooded over the transom. we were able to drag it to the hill and pump the water out. once re-floated, put it on the trailer and got it home. boatus declared it total loss, paid the owner and sold him back the salvaged hull.

not sure of how much value u insured, but hull is probably ok.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Sorry to hear. So long as you get the hull pumped out fairly quickly, it should be fine, the hpdi is another story. I would suspect eeverything electrical as well as the high pressure fuel system is done for.

[bradford]

Hate to hear that Pipe. Glad you and your house made it, hopefully the insurance will make you whole.

[willy]

Good luck Pipe, sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my Bertram 28 to Sandy. Boat US paid the declared value. Good luck my friend

[reelapeelin]

She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

The "Pipe" has been one of my all time favorites on this forum since day one...a real heartbreaker...my hope is you can breathe new life back into her...

[reelapeelin]

Looking back at the restoration pics of the Pipe Dream is like a stroll down memory lane...she's perfect!

Can't recall if that was re-gel coated or painted?...whichever...would you do the same again, given the choice?

[twhrider2]

Bad deal Pipe...Hope everything works out.

[steplift20]

Wow I'm so sorry for you pipedream but I'm sure she can be cleaned up and ready to sale another day The good news is nobody was hurt and everything can be replaced, you can fix her and I'm 100 percent sure we can help you with spare parts we have a nod great advice
Hand in there brother

[steplift20]

I meant sail not sale sorry about that Hope that brought a smile to your face

[lumberslinger178]

sorry to hear this news .... but glad your home was spared. two of my brothers were under water from sandy an one lost his 34 Silverton I feel your pain pipe.

[Pipe_Dream]

Thanks, everyone. I'm waiting for a fellow who comes highly recommended to have a look at her and tell me first if she's sound and second what we're looking at to bring her back. Reel, we awlgripped her back in 2004 when we repowered. Everything the insurance company will give for her would go toward re powering and rewiring, but wouldn't cover it all. I would have to come up with the additional plus cost to do repairs. She was overinsured but not by enough to cover all that. Will have to weigh all this and decide. Spent a LOT in 2004, don't know how much sense it makes to do it again. Of course, we're talking about a boat so how much sense does it have to make??

Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner but still no phone or internet so this is via my smart phone and I am not very good with it, but getting better. I appreciate everyone's input.

[jjuriga]

She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

man that sucks, bro. I'm just getting done with my rehab project... I feel your pain.

[bradford]

Hate to hear it Pipe. We just got internet back today, 10/24/16.

[bradford]

Any news Pipe? Hope things work out the best possible for you.

[Pipe_Dream]

Any news Pipe? Hope things work out the best possible for you.

Thanks. The engine will spin so it's not frozen, but haven't been able to get any fire yet.

[bradford]

Insurance man got ya any money....

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/5873012915.html

[Destroyer]

Insurance man got ya any money....

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/5873012915.html

That's a lot of money and a very small engine for such a large boat. Looking at the hull lines it looks more like a Downeast Lobster style boat than a planing hull. And truthfully, I wonder if it's fiberglass or wood? What about a trailer?

[bradford]

Pipe likes dem kinda boats.

[Pipe_Dream]

Stop, evil tempter!


I do like the downeast style hulls, but that one looks like too much compromise to me.
http://easternboats.com/inventory/220-sisu-ht-220-bass-boat/

What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

[bradford]

What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

Probably bragging about how great things are up north, while *****ing about the locals and the relative humidity.

[Destroyer]

Stop, evil tempter!


I do like the downeast style hulls, but that one looks like too much compromise to me.
http://easternboats.com/inventory/220-sisu-ht-220-bass-boat/

What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

Yup. I have to agree that the "downeast" style is right at the top of my list for beauty and functionality if you're a fisherman, crabber, lobsterman, of diver. The only problem I have with them is they are displacement hulls, which severely limits your speed... (especially if you're trying to outrun an approaching storm and you're miles out to sea). If they would make a downeast style deck with a deep V planing hull like a V20's at a reasonable cost I would be all over it. And yes, I know that Shamrock and a few others do make somewhat similar boats, but they are mostly inboards and I/O's.. and they cost way too much for this poor retiree. :embarsed:

[inaforty]

That's a sisu. They had two different molds. One was a hard chine and the other a soft chine. Peter Brown built these boats in NH for a number of years.
The hard chine model was built/modifed by Rosborough in Nova Scotia. Well built boats but tender side to side kind of like a sail boat. When weather get rough you have to slow down. However they can go through a lot of bad weather. I'd rather have the V 20 myself. If you get serious about any of these downeast hulls be sure to run them in a following sea (esp quartering following seas). I loved our downeast hull for many things (economy, pilothouse, etc) but after buying a V 20 I sold the downeast hull and bought a Bertram to replace the downeast/novie hull. That being said many people love the semi displacement hulls.

Here's a few photos of new Sisu's with pilothouses being rigged in Nova Scotia.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/NovaScotia020.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/NovaScotia020.jpg.html)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/NovaScotia034.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/NovaScotia034.jpg.html)

[Pipe_Dream]

2/26/18 update. Here we are 16 months later and the PD is still on the hard. You may recall that all the large shops were inundated after Matthew, and that a local guy who runs a one man shop was going to take on her repairs. He came well recommended, said he thought that the engine was repairable. Checked it out, it turned, and had it running in short order, but said it was going to need relays, some wiring components, and so forth. "Next week." That was the month after Matthew, November 2016. By March he was finalizing parts for the engine, was going to re-wire the boat and work on cosmetics "next week." All this time I was stopping by his shop a couple times a week, but he was typically not there, out on dock calls. My boat was always "next week." Personal things (mine) took up the majority of my attention, but I kept checking on the boat and nothing much was getting done and I was having difficulty running him down ("next week"). When I did, it was yeah your engine is good and I just have to find time to do the other stuff. In October (1 year) I connected with him and tried to get him to commit to getting the work done by Thanksgiving. He said yes. At Thanksgiving we agreed that it would be done by Christmas. I guess I should have specified the year... In January I told him I wanted to pick up the boat, and could he put the engine together and get it ready to roll. I picked her up a few weeks ago and took her to a dealer, Yamaha certified and seller. I got the report from him last week that yes, the engine will run but he hears ugly sounds from inside and it would need a wiring harness and more and recommends that I put no money into the engine.

So, now I'm looking at repowering, rewiring and cosmetics. And starting to look at boats for sale advertisements. I'd like to bring her back to life, but don't know how smart it is to sink a lot of $$$ into her versus another boat. Beginning to read up on what's available in new engines.

This is my tale of woe. First world problems, I know.

[bradford]

Hate to hear it Pipe, gone down that road myself, times change and I don't know if I'd do it all again. A new engine I think would be a wise decision.

[spareparts]

Pipe, I can sell you a new Suzuki if you are interested. Ive got a deal thru one of my suppliers and getting certifyed. Let me know what HP you are thinking about, 20 or 25, what color. Mechanical shift or electric and I'll work you up a price

[Pipe_Dream]

Pipe, I can sell you a new Suzuki if you are interested. Ive got a deal thru one of my suppliers and getting certifyed. Let me know what HP you are thinking about, 20 or 25, what color. Mechanical shift or electric and I'll work you up a price

Thanks, spare! Would you install it? :-)

[spareparts]

Yes, I would Install it. Ive got to run out of town for the weekend(my father is in the hospital), but I'll get you some numbers next week

[Pipe_Dream]

Yes, I would Install it. Ive got to run out of town for the weekend(my father is in the hospital), but I'll get you some numbers next week

Thanks! I will try to look at their selection online and see what would be the best fit.

[reelapeelin]

Thanks! I will try to look at their selection online and see what would be the best fit.

So glad to read Pipe will ride again!...:clap:

[Pipe_Dream]

Appreciation for the help and encouragement, especially from spareparts.

It turned out that I got hooked up with a local who has been working on the old PD. New Suzuki 175 has been mounted, boat has been re-wired and other items being checked off one by one.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/d.71711/full

The sun has not set for the last time on the Pipe Dream.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/p.71712/full

Sorry I haven't yet mastered the resizing of pics at my new hosting site.

[spareparts]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[bradford]

Sweet Pipe!

[Tommydoe]

Congrats :clap:

[Pipe_Dream]

Thanks, guys.

I'm ready to splash. So I'm hunting insurance. BoatUS wants an out-of-the-water survey in order to re-insure. Surveyor wants to charge $500.

OUCH!

I found another who will do it for $300. I will go with him if necessary.

I'm asking around for others who won't require a survey. But I'm afraid when they ask about prior claims that if I tell them that she sunk they'll want the same.

What's a guy to do?

[phatdaddy]

Can u add it to your homeowners?

[wellcraftv20step]

Best of luck with the new motor Pipe !

[Pipe_Dream]

It's time to put this thread to bed. We splashed Saturday!

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/b.73202/full

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/b.73203/full

Thank you all for your encouragement, and special thanks to spareparts for info and advice and to tommydoe for the cuddy door!

[gofish]

Congrats man!! She looks great!!

[Destroyer]

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[bradford]

Good to see Pipe, congrats!

[Greyduk]

Hey Pipe, How do you like that engine with your V-20? At one point I thought about repowering my V-21 with that same engine. I had one on a 22 ft Bay boat that I had and loved it. Always thought it would be a great fit on a Wellcraft. Looks like it rides plenty high enough in the water.

[Pipe_Dream]

Hey Pipe, How do you like that engine with your V-20? At one point I thought about repowering my V-21 with that same engine. I had one on a 22 ft Bay boat that I had and loved it. Always thought it would be a great fit on a Wellcraft. Looks like it rides plenty high enough in the water.

I haven't even yet run it a full hour, so not much yet that I can tell you. After launching I ran it up the creek a ways. It got up on plane quick enough and ran smooth. I'm accustomed to 2-stroke sounds and power, so it's very quiet. Going out of town this weekend -- bad timing -- so I probably won't get it even broken in for another 2 weeks. I was told by "those in the know" that it would be as strong or stronger than my old 200 HPDI, but I have my doubts about that.

Do you still have your V-21? She's a beauty.

[cfelton]

Congratulations! Looks Great! You've got a lot to be proud of there!

[bradford]

Pipe, what brand and type of bottom paint are you running? How long between repaints?

[Pipe_Dream]

Pipe, what brand and type of bottom paint are you running? How long between repaints?

The fellow that did all the work this year painted the bottom while he had it, and I couldn't get ahold of him yesterday so I don't know. I should see him this weekend and I'll find out.

Thinking about what you're going to put on the Trader?

[Slightly_Twisted]

:love::love::love:SEXY. congratz!!!!:clap::clap:

I would love to hear the numbers once you get it broken in!