What's your winter " to do" list for the V ?

[bgreene]

Besides the winterizing and trailer hub re packing, I've just got a few ideas:

1. Convert front port seat from fixed facing forward to swivel.

2. Enhance snaps on side curtains to avoid risk of flapping / tearing when trailering.

3. caulk bottom of hull rub rail -because I believe it's a possible source of water intrusion
when waves are banging up against the hull.

4. re install cuddy door lock, and move hinge/door hook in to catch just a little easier.

...........and maybe some other things.

[spareparts]

switch from beer to Bourbon :beer:

[GREYWOLF]

good plans. I am purchasing some items for when it warms up too install. So come april 15 I am in my slip, I hate this waiting for spring ! I envy the boy's down south, time to hibernate
:sleep:

[Well20F]

Hey GW
It was only 70degrees in south Alabama on sat. a little chilly LOL.

[phatdaddy]

gonna try to use it more this winter. we always slack off between thanksgiving and christmas. and i usually use feburary as my trailer rebuild month and feb as my boat project month. i do have a battery isolator switch i need to install. been running it 15 years with no switch, so you know how high on the list that project is

[lathehand]

Remove and refinish the teak

[Destroyer]

Change the spin on fuel filter. (The old one is getting a bit corroded) The new one has a petcock on the bottom to release any accumulated water. :head:

Go to a dual battery system on the V21. Right now it's just a single and I like the idea of a second battery. Investigate a solar panel recharging system and see if it's feasible. :sun:

Upgrade the front bilge pump from a 750 to a 1200. (The main is a 2000).

Choke on the cost of an enclosure for the V21 :cen: and decide to get one "next year" .

Switch from Bourbon to Rum. :drool:

[Pipe_Dream]

switch from beer to Bourbon :beer:

This. Except they're both perpetually on my "to drink" list, along with egg nog (home made) for the next few weeks.

I have to figure out why the ol' PD is listing to port. As soon as we get through the holidays. And the egg nog.

[lathehand]

Destroyer I've used one of these on my boat for years http://www.harborfreight.com/15-watt-solar-battery-charger-68692.htmland never had a dead battery.

[Destroyer]

Destroyer I've used one of these on my boat for years http://www.harborfreight.com/15-watt-solar-battery-charger-68692.htmland never had a dead battery.

Lathehand, thanks for the info. Unfortunately that unit is no longer available. Not to worry, the panels themselves are relatively cheap. My question was did they put out enough to keep a battery charged, and you answered that with your comment about using one for years. So again, thank you for the info. :beer:


Whups.... Guess it's still available if you enter the correct info.... it's a 1.5 watt solar panel, not a 15 watt. My bad. Actually, that unit looks like a good thing to use for my garden tractors and some other items that sit for long periods of time. Reading the reviews it's great at maintaining a fully charged battery. I may just buy a few of them. Again, thanks for the link :

[jetblue319]

Finish Work on the trailer
remove fuel tank
Rewire the boat
Treat the wood trimming.

[cfelton]

I'd like ta strip the old ablative paint off the bottom and see what it looks like under it. Maybe if theres any money left after Christmas a new full enclosure. Really depends on the weather cause It won't fit in the garage.

[Well20F]

Destroyer,
Maybe I could build a t top out of solar panels and keep the bats charged and run a electric motor no fuel cost LOL

[Destroyer]

Destroyer,
Maybe I could build a t top out of solar panels and keep the bats charged and run a electric motor no fuel cost LOL

Actually I already have (2) 2' x 3' solar panels, each producing 13.5+ volts. A 6 square foot panel is .557 square meters. The amount of energy from the sun that hits 1 square meter is between 1100 and 1400 watts, so lets say 1200 watts average.... that's 670 watts per panel. Most panels are between 15% and 20% efficient, so lets say 18% average, that's 120 watts. (This is peek power when the sun is at high noon). For a whole day on the water I should get between 4 and 6 hours of peek watts so, at 5 hours that is 600 watt-hours or .6kw-hr per panel. X2 = 1200 watt-hours, or 1.2 kw-h total. More than enough to recharge the batteries, run LED lights, fish finders, radio, etc. All I really need is the "t" top to mount them to. Been kicking this one around for a while now. I have a radar arch already, but maybe I get rid of that and get a "t" top for the solar panels and the radar.... Or maybe I add to the radar arch to make it into a "t" top and add the panels to that? :head:

[spareparts]

Destroyer, let me get some pictures of the arch/top my freind just built for a 20 Bertram, it may give you some good ideas

[Destroyer]

Destroyer, let me get some pictures of the arch/top my freind just built for a 20 Bertram, it may give you some good ideas


Sweet Spare... thanks!!!

[spareparts]

the Bertram left for the fiberglass shop before I got a pic, I'll get one when it comes back

[Destroyer]

the Bertram left for the fiberglass shop before I got a pic, I'll get one when it comes back

Np Spare... this is a long term project anyways... but thank you for the effort. :beer:

[bgreene]

Actually I already have (2) 2' x 3' solar panels, each producing 13.5+ volts. A 6 square foot panel is .557 square meters. The amount of energy from the sun that hits 1 square meter is between 1100 and 1400 watts, so lets say 1200 watts average.... that's 670 watts per panel. Most panels are between 15% and 20% efficient, so lets say 18% average, that's 120 watts. (This is peek power when the sun is at high noon). For a whole day on the water I should get between 4 and 6 hours of peek watts so, at 5 hours that is 600 watt-hours or .6kw-hr per panel. X2 = 1200 watt-hours, or 1.2 kw-h total. More than enough to recharge the batteries, run LED lights, fish finders, radio, etc. All I really need is the "t" top to mount them to. Been kicking this one around for a while now. I have a radar arch already, but maybe I get rid of that and get a "t" top for the solar panels and the radar.... Or maybe I add to the radar arch to make it into a "t" top and add the panels to that? :head:

...........but not enough power to keep the on board hot tub warm ?
I'll guess you're an engineer by trade.

[captpete13]

I want to replace my transom mount transducer with a tilted element,(so it doesn't kick up at speed). Replace my transom drain tubes. Compound/wax,clean etc.

[Destroyer]

...........but not enough power to keep the on board hot tub warm ?
I'll guess you're an engineer by trade.

Facilities Mgr. for JCP&L (retired) :party:

[Kracker Jack]

Finish my boat!!!!! She's sitting in my buddies shop ready for top coat!! Just haven't had time.

[CaptJ]

switch from beer to Bourbon :beer:

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Bourbon

[Mac_Attack]

Nothing til it gets warmer, then wash and wax hull and take it in for the e tecs check up. Eggnog, beer, rum bourbon, all in moderation!

:beer:

[inaforty]

Nothing til it gets warmer, then wash and wax hull and take it in for the e tecs check up. Eggnog, beer, rum bourbon, all in moderation!

:beer:

Great Youtube video!

[dan4836]

Last year I got the engine running great.

This year: New floor, new dash, rewire...

That should keep me busy.

Starting the floor tomorrow!

[SkunkBoat]

did a lot with the gunnels this year, now I'm thinking I should tackle that 30 year old transom....ooooh ...I went and said the T word!

no wiggle in it but the bottom where the transducers have been mounted over the years is definitely soggy.

thinking about cutting just enough of the cap to get at it and dig it out and fill it with Arjay.
problem is, once I cut, I have to paint to make it look good....project creep....

reality is I should skip a summer of fishing and become one of those old dudes who works on his boat all the time.

[step up here]

A boat needs the same attention as a woman right down to the last penny!!!!:oh:

[captpete13]

did a lot with the gunnels this year, now I'm thinking I should tackle that 30 year old transom....ooooh ...I went and said the T word!

no wiggle in it but the bottom where the transducers have been mounted over the years is definitely soggy.

thinking about cutting just enough of the cap to get at it and dig it out and fill it with Arjay.
problem is, once I cut, I have to paint to make it look good....project creep....

reality is I should skip a summer of fishing and become one of those old dudes who works on his boat all the time.

Don't do it man. If it ain't broke don't fix it. If the top of the transom is good just let it go. Unless you have somewhere indoors to work on it doing a transom outside during the winter would suck. It would be really bad to miss a season of fishing.

[spareparts]

revise my statement about switching to Bourbon, its 80 degrees here today, were going back to beer and if it gets any warmer, I'm pulling the cover off the pool

[bgreene]

A boat needs the same attention as a woman right down to the last penny!!!!:oh:

I think a boat needs more attention than a woman.........A boat usually runs more consistenly than a woman anyway. Oops, did I say that ...

[spareparts]

you can walk away from a boat and it won't cost you a dime:zip:

[bradford]

Need to finish up a few small things, but those small things add up.

-Get my back to back lounge seat back from the upolstery man

-install hatch latches in my new hatch covers

-install nav lights, thinking about some shark eyes port and starboard

-see Spareparts pics of this Bertram 20 he's talking about with the new top his friend built and consider throwing more money down the hole

-think about installing I-command guages

-buy and install a garmin chartplotter/depth sounder and vhf radio

-install new teak trim in the cuddy

-put new trailer lights on to keep someone from crashing the etec

-think about how everyone who has trim tabs raves about how great they are and cringe when I think about drilling into my new virgin transom

-Take her out on the nice days!!

[Genie Aye]

Bradford--

Do the I command gauge and get the chip for the gauge-I feel best insurance for that E-tec-it allows several more options on the gauge--trim tabs, fuel gauge etc--it allowed me to take several gauges out and put my 5" chartplotter in my dash.

I am rewiring after replacing the old glass fuse holder behind the dash with ato fuse panel with 15 power sources--can shorten my wire runs for accessories, maybe a new dash panel if I get carried away and got to figure out why my running lights are blowing the fuse. All running lights are led, but think it might be the new tilt up light on the radar arch--to tight going thru the top hole in the arch--oh well, did 4hat one to myself.

Maybe even work on the side storage boxes.

[DiverDux]

Repair/replace throttle.
Secure seat at helm to floor.
Bolt the hinges to floor hatch with nylabolts or threadsealer.
Clean and oil teak trim.
Tach isn't reading accurately, determine cause and repair/replace.
Power wash and paint bottom.
Clean, polish & wax hull.

[Destroyer]

Repair/replace throttle.
Secure seat at helm to floor.
Bolt the hinges to floor hatch with nylabolts or threadsealer.
Clean and oil teak trim.
Tach isn't reading accurately, determine cause and repair/replace.
Power wash and paint bottom.
Clean, polish & wax hull.

Welcome to the site Diver. We love boat porn here so if you have some pics of your boat we'd love to see them. But in all cases, welcome aboard.:clap:

[GREYWOLF]

YES WELCOME you will love this site , lots of great people

[jasoncooperpcola]

Trip over the hull, been using the overturned hull to hide parts for my mud quad build.

The cap is on scaffolding right now. Using the cap to hang quad parts for paint.

And I have also been using the trailer for painting parts. Mounted the tongue jack onto the trailer rail and turnt it into a coil spring compressor.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj199/jasoncooperpcola/IMG_20131224_113133_198.jpg (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/jasoncooperpcola/media/IMG_20131224_113133_198.jpg.html)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj199/jasoncooperpcola/IMG_20131117_094042_026.jpg (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/jasoncooperpcola/media/IMG_20131117_094042_026.jpg.html)

[Hedge]

you can walk away from a boat and it won't cost you a dime:zip:
Love this one.

My winter to do list is find Skools and kidnap him for a day to get my motor tuned.

[cfelton]

I just replaced my shifter and new cables. My wife got me a 728 Himminbird last christmas, just got the GPS antenna to go with it, need to mount that. Planning on taking it out tomorrow morning to try again ta catch a striper or maybe a catfish.

[DiverDux]

Thanks Destroyer and Greywolf. My brother and I picked-up the boat (1987 Steplift) back in May 2013. It is in real nice shape and we fished off of it all summer and kept track of the little things that need to be done. I'll put some photographs up once the weather breaks here in NE Ohio.

[GREYWOLF]

N.E. OHIO ?? I was born in LAKEWOOD OHIO then moved to ROCKY RIVER . used to love fishing there with my father

[Destroyer]

LOL I was in Cleveland last weekend, visiting friends. Good to have you aboard. Looking forward to seeing some pics of your baby.

[grey]

Hi to everyone here. Im a new member but long time browser

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee431/smoff83/DSC_0047.jpg (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/smoff83/media/DSC_0047.jpg.html)

I couldn't find many photos of the boat, but here's one of it on a lake in Ontario.
what Ive done so far:
-stripped the old layered flaky bottom paint, sealed it and re-coated with some nice ablative non flaky paint
-refinished the interior, floor, woodwork, etc
-2 battery system
-new wiring, bus bar, modern fuses
-gauges because it never had any
-seastar steering
-Raycor water separator, new fuel lines
-built hatches for the cuddy, installed marine toilet under these (for the ladies)
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee431/smoff83/IMG-20120527-00196.jpg (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/smoff83/media/IMG-20120527-00196.jpg.html)

-bimini top
-radio, speakers, glovebox in console, knobs, screws, paint, grease, etc

This is an ongoing project. I might pick around at it over the summer but I mostly reserve a weekend or two in the spring to get the big improvements done.

This year:
I found a 1997 Evinrude 200 for short $. The guy it came from upgraded to a Yamaha 4 stroke and didnt know what to do with it. $500.00 later and its mine! So this spring I'm taking of the 1990 140 Evinrude and making the switch. I dont expect any efficiency improvements but it should add a lot to the overall performance

[Pipe_Dream]

Welcome, Grey. She looks sweet!

[bradford]

Great looking V20 there Grey, Welcome!

[inaforty]

Grey,
Nice looking boat! The modifications you did look great. Where did you put the holding tank for the head and how big is it. Do you have a pump out or just a macerator?

The only thing I really need to do to the Wellcraft is replace the fuel sending unit. I got the gauge to work last winter but it stopped working mid summer. I can't figure out how to get the sending unit out without cutting the cockpit floor so I guess I'm going to replace the pie plate with a 13"x17" hatch. Wish it had a removable lid like the V 20.

I've already done a bunch of stuff to the RIB. However I need to cover one of stringers with fiberglass and epoxy. The port side is fine but the starboard side for some reason is missing the fiberglass. The wood is fine but I did treat it with a slow cure deep penetrating epoxy just in case.

I need to replace 7 zippers on the Bertram's flybridge enclosure. I also should replace the covering of the coaming pads on the flybridge. I stopped by the marina last week while the weather was warm and removed all the teak I could from the Bertram to give everything a few coats of Epifanes. Looks like we are headed back into winter this week so a basement project will keep me from going cabin crazy. Love the look of teak on the V 20 and the Bertram but it's a pain in the arse. On the other hand what the heck else is there to do in the middle of winter for some that has a boat addiction.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/inaforty/Bertram/20140120_120156_zpsrq2fsvy8.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/inaforty/media/Bertram/20140120_120156_zpsrq2fsvy8.jpg.html)

[grey]

Where did you put the holding tank for the head and how big is it. Do you have a pump out or just a macerator?


Thanks everyone!

Your project makes mine look easy! I hope this can be put in the right perspective, but there is no holding tank. Water line in, waste line out. Without being too graphic, we just whizzed over the side before it was installed. This is no different, just a little more privacy with a set of mahogany bifold doors.
I keep looking for some better photos, but it may have to wait until spring for the new(er) 200 motor shakedown. cant wait!

[inaforty]

Grey,
You're gonna love the 200hp!
Our V had a 200hp Yamaha and it was so much fun.
It wasn't as fast as the boat with Merc's but I think I got about 47 mph wot with the bottom clean and a lite load.

Even my wife enjoy the speed!:party:


You guys are on the north shore shouldn't get to much snow from the system coming through Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. South shore and the Cape.........get your shovels ready!:oh:

[spareparts]

Grey, I hope you don't get boarded and checked with that head system, if you aren't offshore, with out a lock on it, it will cost you big $$$$$. You need to install a holding tank if you are running inshore or on any fresh water, your overboard discharge needs to be locked out or removed if in fresh

[Destroyer]

Grey, I hope you don't get boarded and checked with that head system, if you aren't offshore, with out a lock on it, it will cost you big $$$$$. You need to install a holding tank if you are running inshore or on any fresh water, your overboard discharge needs to be locked out or removed if in fresh

Yep. It's stupid, but if you put a padlock and hasp on the hatch above the head you should be fine, but if it's open you can get a huge fine from the man. The law just says locked out. It doesn't specify how....

My old John Allmand had a system like yours. I got boarded by the Coast Guard for a routine courtesy inspection. Fortunately, I had a plastic bag (that we never used) lining the inside bowl of the toilet. Since anyone taking a dump into the plastic bag complied with the law about not discharging over the side they had to let me go... but they gave me a stern warning that they were being nice and that I really needed a holding tank. Soon after that I installed a Porta potty. I figured the $69 cost was a lot less than the $500 fine I was quoted.

Aside from that, welcome to the site. Good to see you aboard.

PS, I live near NYC. On any given day the East River discharges tens of thousands of gallons of RAW sewage into the ocean... but that's ok... but the little 2 quarts of sewage you might dump in will make the entire world polluted. Pretty amazing....

[grey]

Yep. It's stupid, but if you put a padlock and hasp on the hatch above the head you should be fine, but if it's open you can get a huge fine from the man. The law just says locked out. It doesn't specify how....

My old John Allmand had a system like yours. I got boarded by the Coast Guard for a routine courtesy inspection. Fortunately, I had a plastic bag (that we never used) lining the inside bowl of the toilet. Since anyone taking a dump into the plastic bag complied with the law about not discharging over the side they had to let me go... but they gave me a stern warning that they were being nice and that I really needed a holding tank. Soon after that I installed a Porta potty. I figured the $69 cost was a lot less than the $500 fine I was quoted.

Aside from that, welcome to the site. Good to see you aboard.

PS, I live near NYC. On any given day the East River discharges tens of thousands of gallons of RAW sewage into the ocean... but that's ok... but the little 2 quarts of sewage you might dump in will make the entire world polluted. Pretty amazing....

next on list - figure out fake lock thingy to go on hatch over toilet

[grey]

Grey,
You're gonna love the 200hp!
Our V had a 200hp Yamaha and it was so much fun.
It wasn't as fast as the boat with Merc's but I think I got about 47 mph wot with the bottom clean and a lite load.

Even my wife enjoy the speed!:party:


You guys are on the north shore shouldn't get to much snow from the system coming through Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. South shore and the Cape.........get your shovels ready!:oh:
Yep, we're getting spared. It really makes spring feel so far away

[Destroyer]

Yep, we're getting spared. It really makes spring feel so far away
We have a foot on the ground already, and it's still snowing.. Supposed to stop in about 4 hours... <sigh> My boats are covered.. Not working on them for a long time.

[Destroyer]

next on list - figure out fake lock thingy to go on hatch over toilet

Use a real lock.. Just keep the key someplace on the boat....

[bgreene]

[QUOTE=bgreene;210291]Besides the winterizing and trailer hub re packing, I've just got a few ideas:

1. Convert front port seat from fixed facing forward to swivel. In process....with new helm swivel and port seats.

2. Enhance snaps on side curtains to avoid risk of flapping / tearing when trailering. DONE

3. caulk bottom of hull rub rail -because I believe it's a possible source of water intrusion
when waves are banging up against the hull.

4. re install cuddy door lock, and move hinge/door hook in to catch just a little easier. DONE

5. Remove all rod holders - caulk, re install. DONE
6. Remove gunnel sections, re spray at auto body shop. DONE
7. Purchase new connector cables for electronics DONE
8. Winterize engine...... did this a few months ago. DONE
9. Trailer new bearings, packed. DONE
10. Dual battery system............. LIKELY

[DiverDux]

Repair/replace throttle.
Secure seat at helm to floor.
Bolt the hinges to floor hatch with nylabolts or threadsealer.
Clean and oil teak trim.
Tach isn't reading accurately, determine cause and repair/replace.
Power wash and paint bottom.
Clean, polish & wax hull.

Hello all-

Well the boat is wet as of yesterday. The list is mostly complete a few additions and a few things we decided to postpone for a bit.

New nuts and bolts to the floor hatch.

Cleaned and coated teak.

Cleaned and waxed.

Replaced the tach.

Had a problem shifting into and out of gear, so we replaced the linkage to the outdrive. Needed to pull the outdrive to do the repair so we replaced the boot, gimbal bearing etc.

Decided to look at the stiff stearing. replaced the helm with a new anti-feedback steering system.

Replaced the factory ignition with a solid state ignition.

Attempted to secure helm seat base... aborted for now. See our plea for advice in the repair section.

Decided not to re-paint the bottom. Considering a permanent coating for the bottom. Thinking next year.

[bradford]

Sounds like you're knocking out your punch list there Diver. Good job!

[DiverDux]

We're trying to!