How come no new " how fast " threads ?

[bgreene]

Could it be that I asked every stupid question we can think of ?

How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.


Please - no one respond to this thread. I'm even sick of it myself..........

[spareparts]

no ones got any money to spend on fuel or go fast items. Have you priced the Yamaha's? personally I've been reading the reports of the new Yamaha 200, it looks like it could be the perfect motor for a V20, just cost too much for me

[bgreene]

no ones got any money to spend on fuel or go fast items. Have you priced the Yamaha's? personally I've been reading the reports of the new Yamaha 200, it looks like it could be the perfect motor for a V20, just cost too much for me

Spare - I'm really just kidding around....... for a while I was posting this question frequently.

I run a carb'd 150hp on my V21 and it's ok. The newer etec 200 or optimax 200 probably uses less fuel but to your point - it's a lot of $$$.

[jasoncooperpcola]

How fast on a V22 pilothouse center console with a shortened cuddy, and two 2.5L Merc 200s on a bracket? I am figuring 75. at least.....

[RidgeRunner]

Hydrofoils you say? Rocket boosters? UBHYSTRY's kinda set the bar IMHO. Yup, there it is. Slightly north of 70 IIRC with an hopped up stroker SBC and an A-drive. Twins on a light one would be fun, albeit expensive. I still think a light enough 300 outboard might see 70.

[jasoncooperpcola]

I saw an Opti XS 300 3.2L Stroker on a Blazer Bay the other day. What an outboard.:sad:

[jasoncooperpcola]

phone wont edit. The smilie was supposed to be :money: not the sad smilie.

[ssiredfish]

Could it be that I asked every stupid question we can think of ?

How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.


Please - no one respond to this thread. I'm even sick of it myself..........

Couldnt have said it better myself......

[draglink]

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[Blue_Runner]

I think we need a "How slow...." thread. For instance, when I was using my 9.9hp I was able to put along at .9 mph. I'm thinking with a Sears Eska 1.2 hp air-cooled 2-stroke outboard (tuned just right) I could get to .3 mph but concerned about how the V will handle the lack of speed. Can these hulls handle it? Do you think any water that hits the deck will drain forward as opposed to aft toward the scuppers or do I need to add some ballast in the rear???

Am I over-thinking again? HELP!
:part:

[bradford]

I think we need a "How slow...." thread. For instance, when I was using my 9.9hp I was able to put along at .9 mph. I'm thinking with a Sears Eska 1.2 hp air-cooled 2-stroke outboard (tuned just right) I could get to .3 mph but concerned about how the V will handle the lack of speed. Can these hulls handle it? Do you think any water that hits the deck will drain forward as opposed to aft toward the scuppers or do I need to add some ballast in the rear???

Am I over-thinking again? HELP!
:part:

You probably want to go with a Sears Gamefisher instead of that Eska. That or quadruple Force 125's ('87 model, The black ones with the digital watch graphics) on a bracket with custom ventelating steps built into the hull.

http://i2.bmostatic.com/UserFiles/99/998/99854/a7/m_a7bb7e33de8719a676e5dc2ce21f3aa0.jpg (http://touch.bismanonline.com/1988_force_outboard_boat_motor/task/ViewAdPhotos/?photoId=1690131)

[reh76]

You probably want to go with a Sears Gamefisher instead of that Eska. That or quadruple Force 125's ('87 model, The black ones with the digital watch graphics) on a bracket with custom ventelating steps built into the hull.

http://i2.bmostatic.com/UserFiles/99/998/99854/a7/m_a7bb7e33de8719a676e5dc2ce21f3aa0.jpg (http://touch.bismanonline.com/1988_force_outboard_boat_motor/task/ViewAdPhotos/?photoId=1690131)

For an offshore fishing rig how would that compare to say a 1985 Bayliner Capri with counter rotating Force 90's and vent holes drilled in the props?

[Genie Aye]

How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.


Why screw around with the little stuff----Put the 525hp outboard on it and call it good---should do around 80+ if the hull does not come apart---LMAO

You are right--the horse is dead:nut:

[RidgeRunner]

For the record, those Force engines were not black. I believe the color was Force-ler Blue. Late 80's I worked at a place that sold VIP's with factory rigged Force outboards. Never saw a counter rotating Force, nor a 25" shaft come to think of it. Wonder if any are still alive?

Long live the go-fast thrreads.

[Blue_Runner]

Seriously guys....I expected more out of you. At least Bradford did touch on the question at hand. Otherwise, most of my questions have not been answered.....disapointed......think I will post up on THT where the real expert "GO SLOW" pros hang out.

Cheers. :rain:

[jasoncooperpcola]

At what rpm do you get .9 mph with a 9.9?

[Blue_Runner]

Honestly do not know because there's no tac but I believe it is a 9 p prop and .9 was a tick above idle so my old workhorse would stay runnin.

Anybody getting .1 or less? :fam:

[Destroyer]

Honestly do not know because there's no tac but I believe it is a 9 p prop and .9 was a tick above idle so my old workhorse would stay runnin.

Anybody getting .1 or less? :fam:


Bah.... you guys are pikers.... You want to go slow? I have a set of Sears oars that will do much less than .1. (Depending on how many beers I've had) :beer:

[jasoncooperpcola]

I do not know exactly how fast we were going. But wot with a 150 Johnson barely moving. Truck had gotten stuck in sand and had to use the Johnson to help push. :sand: It took about two or three minutes to go ten feet.

[randlemanboater]

I'll put my 2.7 Cruise-n-carry up against your 9.9 anyday BR.

I bet it will go WAY under .9 mph...it may even go negative with the right prop.

But its been put up for the winter so I guess we cant run em...but if we did, you would leave me in the dust.

[Blue_Runner]

We can go title for title next spring RB. Whoever takes the longest to go 20 feet gets both motors. And a plaque.

[Destroyer]

My 2 hp British Seagull is probably too fast unless I change the prop.. but it's a great trolling maching. Never actually measured how slow with the gps.. I wonder how you actually measure less than one knot? Do you use a chip log?

[Blue_Runner]

My 2 hp British Seagull is probably too fast unless I change the prop.. but it's a great trolling maching. Never actually measured how slow with the gps.. I wonder how you actually measure less than one knot? Do you use a chip log?

No, no, just use IPH. (inches per hour) LOL

[bgreene]

Doing a little casual search for Evinrude 200hp DFI from 2002-2005......

Not the etec, just before after Bombardier had cleaned up the mess and was building a great motor. I had one of these.......Evinrude master tech dealership told me it puts out approx 218 prop hp so it's in line with the Etec 200 HO, but less money.

That should push my V21 to approx 50 mph. Nice.

As I mentioned - casual search ( meaning how much $$ to pull the trigger.....or not )

[UBHSTRY]

I want back in when we go back to drag racing these things:sun:

[UBHSTRY]

Hydrofoils you say? Rocket boosters? UBHYSTRY's kinda set the bar IMHO. Yup, there it is. Slightly north of 70 IIRC with an hopped up stroker SBC and an A-drive. Twins on a light one would be fun, albeit expensive. I still think a light enough 300 outboard might see 70.


Wow, thank you for the kind words RidgeRunner.

[bgreene]

The new 557 hp outboard is the ticket- weight, I believe around 1,000lbs.

Transom rips off into the water........ engine falls into the water.......sharks in the water......our shark.....

" Farewell and adue my sweetie etc, farewell and adue etc, ect........

[Blue_Runner]

I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:

[randlemanboater]

I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:

Fonzie style.

[Destroyer]

Fonzie style.



Heeeeyyyyyyyyyyy!

[bradford]

I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:


BR one ups CTT with his new avatar.....




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[Blue_Runner]

:fam:Aaaaeeeyyy!:fam:

[bgreene]

I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

[RidgeRunner]

:drool:

[Destroyer]

I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

I suppose anything is possible, given enough money and time, but is it really necessary, and can you do it safely? These hulls were never built for that kind of torture. Plowing thru a wave at 35 is a hell of a lot different than smashing thru that same wave at 60. I'm satisfied with my 200 moving me along nicely.

[draglink]

I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

I would say no problem with a slick bottom.

My 200 Merc is making a little over 200HP, no bottom paint, fastest I have seen on GPS is 53 mph. So 280 HP out of same motor, hell yeah!

[bgreene]

I would say no problem with a slick bottom.

My 200 Merc is making a little over 200HP, no bottom paint, fastest I have seen on GPS is 53 mph. So 280 HP out of same motor, hell yeah!

Drag - which 200 are you running - the OptiMax ?

[draglink]

Drag - which 200 are you running - the OptiMax ?


Old Skool carbed Black Max 2.4 200......I have a great friend who races outboards and loves these things. He did a rebuild on it for me....he wanted to get crazy, but I had a budget to stick to.

I REALLY wish it was the 3.0 250 block!!

[aussie]

carazy man you want a fishing boat to go like a ski boat and this guy wants his tractor to go like a drag car :hide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FReT0RBIs

[bgreene]

Now THAT'S a sleeper vehicle !

V 20 top speed performance thread is for fun.....

The fastest V was the guy who posted video with the inboard - approx 70 mph top speed.

Would have liked to seen more of it, and use of tabs to eliminate the porposing so it runs flat.

Inboard power is really the best way to create the ultimate " sleeper V boat " .
Transom can only handle X size outboard, and inboard weight further forward balances better.

[draglink]

Now THAT'S a sleeper vehicle !

V 20 top speed performance thread is for fun.....

The fastest V was the guy who posted video with the inboard - approx 70 mph top speed.

Would have liked to seen more of it, and use of tabs to eliminate the porposing so it runs flat.

Inboard power is really the best way to create the ultimate " sleeper V boat " .
Transom can only handle X size outboard, and inboard weight further forward balances better.

Yep, its a sleeper, I changed to a new style cowl and kept the 135 decals!!

[aussie]

i like to see guys making big power out of small engines-- were its not only money that makes them the fastest its knowlage and skill and a few of these :beer::beer::beer:

[UBHSTRY]

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[aussie]

I would say no problem with a slick bottom.

My 200 Merc is making a little over 200HP, no bottom paint, fastest I have seen on GPS is 53 mph. So 280 HP out of same motor, hell yeah!
drag thats what i like to see guys making more power out of small engines ---its much too boring putting a bigger engine on----thats the idea with my 3.7 want more power out of a small engine its more rewarding--im doings things to my engine that merc couldnt afford to do because the cost would make engine too much for people to buy

[step up here]

more rewarding--im doings things to my engine that merc couldnt afford to do because the cost would make engine too much for people to buy[/QUOTE]
:head::head::head:

[aussie]

more rewarding--im doings things to my engine that merc couldnt afford to do because the cost would make engine too much for people to buy
:head::head::head:[/QUOTE]
Look im with you all the way we can make engines better than what they did--- but alot of guys think that stock is the best way ---every car i ever owned has never been stock always had to do mods to improve power and fuel---im going solid on my camshaft in my 3.7---the reason is the edelbrock head needs rollers and harden pushrods--- so why not go for a solid --the cam grind merc used them is crazy to me ---cam profiles are completely different to what they were using 25 years ago--- i will end up with a engine that idles good and has good tork all the way to 6000 cant wait :beer: all my mates have outboard i just want to prove you can make good power from a 4cyl inboard im the black sheep of the group with a unkown of wellcraft and a unknow 4cyl inboard theywould call my boat a sleeper well i hope i wake her up for them lol:nut:

[RidgeRunner]

I like your posts AND your hotrod 3.7L Aussie. I agree that camshaft grinds have changed, especially with VVT and roller cams. The "hot cams" for the GM LS series small block seem radical in lift and duration, yet they maintain a good idle quality. What is the latest on your rebuild?
:pic:

[aussie]

:money::money::money: THATS WHATS HOLDING ME UP :oh:


not much left to buy---4x egale connecting rods---8 x soild lifters--head stud kit---460 balancer--electric water pump---rev limter box

macine shop---bore and hone ----balance----fit pistons---deck block---cam grind

[RidgeRunner]

All that is left is finishing it.($$$) I get it. Glad to hear you are doing well.
Hang in there..