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ours went up more than that.
BTW, if anyone thinks the Republicans were part of the problem with the ACA, they don't understand our government. The democrats had a super majority in the house and senate for the last two years of the Bush presidency, basically nullifying anything Bush could propose. The Democrats had the power to do something about the crash, but seeing as how they were the ones who caused it, they blamed it on Bush. The first two years of the Obama presidency, the democrats had full control with no checks. They still had the suoper majority in teh house and senate, and with the presidency, they could have passed anything they wanted without any thing preventing them. Pelosy stated that if you want to read it, you have to pass it. It wasn't even circulated before voting. If there has ever been a gross misuse of our government and representatives, that was it.
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ours went up more than that.
BTW, if anyone thinks the Republicans were part of the problem with the ACA, they don't understand our government. The democrats had a super majority in the house and senate for the last two years of the Bush presidency, basically nullifying anything Bush could propose. The Democrats had the power to do something about the crash, but seeing as how they were the ones who caused it, they blamed it on Bush. The first two years of the Obama presidency, the democrats had full control with no checks. They still had the super majority in the house and senate, and with the presidency, they could have passed anything they wanted without any thing preventing them. Pelosy stated that if you want to read it, you have to pass it. It wasn't even circulated before voting. If there has ever been a gross misuse of our government and representatives, that was it.
100% correct. Basically, the Dems ruled (Had control of the purse strings) for 4 straight years... 2 in Bush's last term and 2 in Obama's first term. They could have done just about anything in Obama's first term to actually fix things, but all they did was blame everything on Bush and pass the most expensive spending bill in our nations history, (They called it the "Stimulus" bill)...but all it really was was a way to fill the respective Congressmen's home states with massive pork spending so as to try to solidify their own reelection when their terms expired. And then, in the dead of night, with a complete abrogation of the current laws, Reid passed the ACA Act (Obamacare) with a straight up and down vote instead of the 2/3's majority normally required. It passed by one vote. As the story goes, they awakened Russ Feingold from his home and transported him to the Senate chambers so he could cast the deciding vote. EVERY single Democrat Senator voted for the bill and EVERY single Republican voted against it. The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it. The next day, Republicans introduced legislation to repeal the bill. Obama signed ACA into law on March 23, 2010.

ANY time you ever hear the government call a bill "Affordable", grab your wallet and run for the hills because you know, surer than $hit, they are going to steal more money from you. Does anyone really think that the "Affordable Care Act" is really "affordable"? If so I own a bridge going from Manhattan to Brooklyn that you might be interested in buying.
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