not for the weak at heart - Page 3

tsubaki · #21 06-16-2007, 11:05 PM

ches, you would be surprised at how much of the wood installed originally is not needed after the hull and molds are joined.
We were looking at another boat today to decide about cutting the keel or not to put a battery in the bow. The end decision was "it's not doing much of anything since the glassed sections are in place".

#22 06-18-2007, 12:25 AM

Glynn County is in SE Georgia. Brunswick, St Simons Isle Jeckyl Isle. It's where the hammer heads breed. I've wondered about leaving the stringers empy but worry they won't do the job. I've considered seacast but not sure I can afforn it. The bulk heads have rotten wood so the stringers should to and don't so maybe they should be empty. I've put yet another letter to wellcraft and Lee, I should no more soon til then, more ripping out and prep work. Thanks for the encouragement guys, I was on the verge of trashing the whole idea and am now glad I didn't.

#23 06-19-2007, 10:16 AM

I tend to agree, I'm going to rip the rest of the floor up and check it out. Seacast is expensive, and after further review, the stringers were 3/4 ply with kleets nailed at the top so, they can't have a lot of structural integrity to begin with. I'm just waiting on one last email from wellcraft befor I cover up the empty stringers. Makes me nervous.

reelapeelin · #24 06-19-2007, 10:51 AM

Dreamer, I wouldn't leave 'em open...if nothing else, cut 3/4" ply or something, heavy coat of resin in cavity AND on board and shove in to place ... that can't cost much, but would be better than leaving open ;) ...

Monkey Butler · #25 06-19-2007, 03:16 PM

Hey CD,

I had pretty much the same boat...

except mine was an I/O.

I just sold it a little over a week ago. Mine was a 1968 and boats from that era were from a time when the builders didn't know or want to know how little fiberglass they could get away with using so it is definately overbuilt. I did some real wave bashing with mine and I remember thinking to myself how solid it seemed. I mean there was no pounding sounds or the kind of resonance you get from thin 'glass shaking around in lighter boats. I think that you can get away without putting wood back in there.

I really didn't have any complaints about the boat. I just found it a little cramped for my family of five, plus I wanted to bring along a couple of friends now and then. For it's size the boat is narrow by today's standards. If you notice in my pix the hull is well within the fenders on the trailer. A current runabout would extend out over the fenders by quite a bit. I think I measured it once and the beam was shy of seven feet. The narrow beam makes it a better sea boat but it does cut down on the elbow room too.

Something I always wondered about but could never figure out... maybe since you've got your's opened up you can answer this for me? On mine there didn't seem to be any way for water to get from the bow to the aft bilge area. The bow had an inner liner that made up the forward cabin vee berth and a footwell that extended out into the cockpit. There was an anchor locker in front of this liner so it was possible for water to get under there I guess, but I couldn't see how it would get out. Looking at your pics doesn't make it any clearer.

Good luck, it's a worthwhile project for sure.

Steve P.

#26 06-21-2007, 11:00 AM

I've wondered the same and noticed a small gap between the bulk head and the hull. At the same time, the foot locker doesn't have a drain and when it rained last week and I didn't put the tarp on her, I noticed standing water in the cuddy area. Nothing a shop vac couldn't fix. Do you have anymore pics of your old boat? I'm restoring mine but have no original pics and wellcraft doesn't have much to go on either.

[email protected] is my email address if you'd like to send them there, it would really help.

tsubaki · #27 06-21-2007, 05:16 PM

Tally if you do have them, post them here.

Monkey Butler · #28 06-22-2007, 12:25 AM

I don't have the time to resize all the pics so I'll just post up some links.

First off look here for some pics, it is the ebay auction with the welching winning bidder...

http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29323-...863&lk=URL

Some random pics I had around...

The seatboxes are not origianal. I could never figure out what the bronze piece sticking out of the floor behind the drivers seat was...
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_2148T.jpg

The engine bay. The front mounts are on a raised area. Behind that it drops down to the hull bottom. No limber hole I could find...
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_2152T.jpg

The only shot I have of the cabin. It had a fiberglass liner in the cabin area. Behind the door is the anchor locker area.
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_2154T.jpg

If you look closely you can see a blue cover that fit over the footwell that extended int the cockpit from the cabin...
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_2157T.jpg

In this picture you can see a hawse pipe that was missing the cover when I got it. It opens into the anchor locker IN FRONT OF the cabin liner. Where did the water go?
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3368.jpg

That's all for now.

A roadside relic I spotted...

http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3334.jpg
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3335.jpg
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3336.jpg
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3337.jpg
http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_3338.jpg

http://www.kci2.com/b/IMG_1008.jpg

#29 06-22-2007, 10:32 AM

Hey Tally,

Much thanks. Those pics are better then anything Wellcraft has sent me. I agree the boat sometimes seems a bit cramped, that's how my restoration began. I noticed a small soft spot and decided if I was going to cut the floor and fix it may has well put the fuel cell below deck. Next thing ya know, I have gaping holes in my floor and the rest is soon to be history.

I'd like to find the original plastic decor pieces that belong on the bout IE Wellcraft and Triumph but have had no luck finding them. Again thanks for the pics and info.

#30 08-11-2007, 07:24 PM

Ok so it's 120+ and I took a sickday from work so what to do! That's right cut out old flooring and stringers. Most of the old glass had no wood but once I started cutting, I found little pieces everywhere. Took a few hours but her's what I got done today.
THE PLAYERS

The biggest piece of wood I found in the old stringer cavity

more wood fragments

Even the bulkhead was missing her wood

wanted to use the old floor pieces for a template but, after cutting them out, I noticed a 1/4 gap between the hull and floor so this is trash

cramped and itchy but it will be worth it in the end. I vacuummed for ever to get it this clean. Figure if I clean as I go it won't be as bad. I know still more grinding but it won't be long now.