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Unread 10-11-2011, 09:42 AM
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Yeh well I maintain $ 6,900 is a low price for a great V21 based on all the other for sale.

$ 8,000 - $ 10,000 a solid / fair price for a 94- 96 V21 depending on condition and motor age/power/ condition.

$ 45 for a steak is " pricey" bro. Hope your V holds it's value till you sell.
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Unread 10-11-2011, 11:39 AM
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Hang a new power plant one year and pay someone to do nearly a full restoration the next, that's pricey.

Whoever buys that 21 is gonna get off a lot cheaper than me.
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Unread 10-11-2011, 03:51 PM
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Hang a new power plant one year and pay someone to do nearly a full restoration the next, that's pricey.

Whoever buys that 21 is gonna get off a lot cheaper than me.
Ya, and you still have to pay for that indoor, climate controlled storage area for the winter.
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Funny thing is, if you click on the link now the seller wants $8000 for the boat, but the ad title says $6900. And again, that's down from the original $9700 he wanted in the first place. I'm wondering if he really wants to sell the boat or if this is one of those "Honey, I have the boat up for sale, what more can I do?" kinda sales that we've seen in the past.

At any rate this thread has taken way too much of our time. So I'll leave with this parting opinion. IMHO, I think that @ $9700 the boat is pricey, @ $6700 it's a good deal. (assuming everythings ok with the boat). Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not. Cheers...

I wouldn't offer him anything less than 10,500 for it...
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Unread 10-12-2011, 03:31 PM
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Bgreene, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I have to completely disagree with you. First off, since I doubt that the financial news reads these posts, I don't think that my labeling a boat as pricy is going to drag down it's value, so lets stop with the retoric. I wrote the post as it related to me. You have no idea as to my financal situation. To a begger, a $3.99 hamburger is pricey. To a billionaire, a $500 million dollar private jet is just pocket change. Everything relates back to whoever is making the statement. Now, to me, that V21 is pricey. I cannot easly afford it. It is not a statement as to it's worth to someone else, or even to it's retail value. It's simply a statement as it's cost, relative to me. If you are rich, or at least financally comfortable, and can easily afford that boat, then by all means, call it a low price or a fair price. And for you, you would be correct in your call. But for me, since I cannot afford it, I will continue to call things that I would like, but cannot easily afford, .... pricey.
thought I understood but then I kept reading and got totally confused
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Unread 10-12-2011, 04:00 PM
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Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!
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Unread 10-12-2011, 08:20 PM
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Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!
Hey " your honor" ....... I respectfully reject your ruling that " none of us are right."
Eventually nearly all of us sell our boat, and at that time, I bet none of us would appreciate comments such as " pricey" when we're asking a proven fair market price for our rig.
I say........if you're not buying, leave the sellers post alone or send him a private email if you have a strong opinion that you feel compelled to share.....better than hurting his ability to sell it with negative comments.
As for the Seacraft Sceptre - I'd love to get one. A great boat based on everything I know, and fairly hard to find one in excellent condition..........that is.....for a " fair price" !!!!ha ha.
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The way I see it is this...we can all have our own OPINIONS regarding the VALUE of this boat or that boat....and until somebody w/the cash steps up and BUYS it, an OPINION is all it is...these Vs we love around here, in the end are worth only what somebody is willing to actually PAY for....I have a certain respect for bgreene's wish to protect his perceived value of his boat, but I also understand and agree w/BR's point of view as well...none of us is right or wrong...until the cash hits the table...
When I was in the car business there was a saying; There's an a$$ for every seat...holds true for boats too...
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The way I see it is this...we can all have our own OPINIONS regarding the VALUE of this boat or that boat....and until somebody w/the cash steps up and BUYS it, an OPINION is all it is...these Vs we love around here, in the end are worth only what somebody is willing to actually PAY for.....
Reel, that's exactly what I meant when I said quote "Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not." unquote. When a person buys an item for $5.00 or $5oo,ooo, then that is what the item was actually worth, no matter what opinion someone else may have about the price.

I have to make a comment though. There have been many other posts where members have made comments about how they felt about the price of a boat that was listed for sale. None of them generated so much as a ripple from other menbers. This post though, no matter how I've tried to explain MY position, and why I felt that TO ME the boat was pricey, has generated a constant and sometimes sarcastic attack by bgreene against me and anyone else that agreed with me. I'd like to know why. Normally I'd do this with a PM, but since the attacks were many and in public I'll take the same route. Maybe I'm being thin-skinned, but truthfully this has left a real bad taste in my mouth.
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Unread 10-13-2011, 09:11 AM
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A good deal = what ever a person is willing to pay for something.Not what ever someone else thinks it's worth
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