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That's not a bad price. does it include controls, prop, gauges, etc.??
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10-02-2008, 05:08 PM
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I didn't see anything about including controls/prop, so I don't think it is. However, as cterrebone mentioned, the e-tec has a special going on...5 year warranty and free I-guage. That seems like a pretty good deal. In addition to that, a $300 rebate if you're a TBF/TFW member....I'd join just for the rebate :)
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10-02-2008, 06:13 PM
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around here the Yamaha is king, the suzukis coming in second, the verados have become the "price motor" and most people around here wouldn't have an e-tec if you gave them one. But that is the general consinsus, based on peoples opinions, not facts. There is only one dealer here that I would trust with an e-tec and they do an excellent job with an excelent product(although expensive), there are a ton of people that will work on Yamahas around here, the suzuki dealers are the same dealers that handle Yamaha, so they are about the same. The mercury dealers generally are the carpet, vynil, and sticker boat dealers, you ususally have to wait in line behind the customers with the big payment books to get your motor looked at. For me personally, I'd look at an Opti max first, then the 175 Suzuki. Funny thing, nobody even considers Honda on a repower, one of these days Honda is going to realize how much of the market ther are letting yamaha and suzuki take and get serious about it.
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10-02-2008, 07:33 PM
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Cterre, maybe the reason you're not seeing many Etecs in your shop is there aren't many in the field. Somebody has to buy them for you to work on them. If this board is an indicator, there are only a few Etec owners here. Maybe Evinrude should compare an Etec 2 stroke to a Yamaha or Mercury 2 stroke. I think the results may be a little different. I think you'll see that Yamaha has many more four stroke outboards in the field than Evinrude Etecs. Unfortunately, the Fichts put them in a hole and their market share dropped. What I see is it's a four stroke marketplace with Yamaha, Suzuki, Verado, and Honda. I do however think BRP is trying to do it right, especially with warranty issues. I think it's difficult to give a 5 yr warranty when Etecs haven't been on the market that long. In my area of Florida, 90% of the guides are running Yamahas, some with upwards of 3000 hrs on them. A friend recently removed a Yamaha 2 stroke (with no major repairs) from his boat with 4800 hrs on it. I know Evinrude makes a statement about no maintenance for 300 hrs, what about the typical guy that puts 50 hrs a year on an outboard? Six yrs w/o maintenance, could that be true? This post is just my $.02. When it comes down to it, it's a matter of good dealer and factory backup and personal preference. It is nice to keep the business in the USA, however, guess where the final money goes, Canada.
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10-03-2008, 10:17 AM
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you didn't read it hello the 150 2 and 4 stroke YAMAHA'S are close in power and fuel usage. If ya wish I have the number for the factory Yamaha guy I know at Morehead City. That's all he does is test boats all day with different motors.
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10-03-2008, 10:27 AM
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just to correct some statements seacrets. brp's intentions were never to say they were other 2-stroke slayers, their main goal was to show that 4-strokes are gods gift to the outboard world. That people do have alternatives. also we sell yam's and brp's here. we sell about 3 etec's to every yamaha. for our case dealing with our customers in the market we see more problems with yamaha's.
all this talk about how e-tecs havent been out for a while is not completely accurate. they have had the same theory out behind their injection system since the fichts came into the market.(etec has been out since 04) E-tec is just the evoloution of ficht technology. also its 3yrs or 300 hours which ever arrives first. i have owned yamaha's and omc/brp's and merc's on various boats. they all eventually will give you an issue, just make sure you have someone who is knowledgeable to fix them. like you said seacrets warranty and service. the corporate income tax might be collected in canada but it does create jobs in US.
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10-03-2008, 02:57 PM
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Hey Spare!!...one of us considered Honda on a repower
 
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10-03-2008, 03:45 PM
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those are a rare sight down here, I don't hear anything bad about them, just don't see that many, heard they had a new 90? that had the best power to weight ratio for any 4 stroke, i haven't seen one.
And back to the issue, try to sell a used e-tec aournd here, vs a a used Yamaha, your phone will ring off the hook for the Yamaha, you won't get a call on the e-tec. personally like I said, opti first, then zuki 175, then yamah 150. I've run them all.
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10-03-2008, 07:58 PM
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My Johnson, which is sold by BRP (a Canadian company) says "made in Japan" right on the serial number plate.
OK, so all you guys talking junk about my rice burner fess up, how many of you own a Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc, car or truck?
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