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Old 04-12-2012, 07:44 AM
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Re subscribed.. Jasoncoopercola, The liner on the 1983 also adds a lot of structural support. The hull is flemsy without the cap. Glassing a rolled gunnel will help with some of the structural issues but I suspect you would need to install some ribs to keep the hull sides from flopping in the waves and causing stress cracks where the bulkheads meet the hull sides. The older hulls, like KrackerJack's have a liner but it is glued in place tight to the outer skin I think. that adds strength. Then his gunnel cap and vertical braces (ribs) are going to tighten her up even further. I have Reels old 74 here that is like Kracker's. That is the best I can determine without ripping into her.
Kracker, your work is just fine, don't beat yourself up. Two layers of 1708? You are building her heavy.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:45 AM
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Re subscribed.. Jasoncoopercola, The liner on the 1983 also adds a lot of structural support. The hull is flemsy without the cap. Glassing a rolled gunnel will help with some of the structural issues but I suspect you would need to install some ribs to keep the hull sides from flopping in the waves and causing stress cracks where the bulkheads meet the hull sides. The older hulls, like KrackerJack's have a liner but it is glued in place tight to the outer skin I think. that adds strength. Then his gunnel cap and vertical braces (ribs) are going to tighten her up even further. I have Reels old 74 here that is like Kracker's. That is the best I can determine without ripping into her.
Kracker, your work is just fine, don't beat yourself up. Two layers of 1708? You are building her heavy.
Ridge you are correct my liner is tight to the outer hull. It is glued or puttied down from the cap about 2 inches and then it expands out and seperates from the out side hull. So what I did was drilled holes in my liner were my gunwale supports are laid out and filled the holes with foam to even further tighten up the rigidity of the hull.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:27 AM
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I did not know that Ridge. I know the 18 i have tore apart now is a floppy mess. I am just wondering if i can cut the liner and reuse the cap but lay my own sole. I have no problem installing and making ribs. I want to delete the two rear hatches and splashwell. I may bracket the v20 so i wont need a splashwell, maybe even install a transom door? The hardest part i foresee is the cuddy and windsheild part of the liner. I will have to look close at my v20 and see how much work is involved. But i like Krackers idea of a shortened cuddy centerconsole. I am pulling the liner to check my stringers and transom, but i cant do anything till i get the 18 out of the garage. Last thing code enforcement needs to see is a torn apart boat in the yard..........
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:14 PM
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BIG GLASS DAY TOMORROW!!! 84 degrees, no humidity. Gunwale supports are being glassed tomorrow. Im gonna try and do wet on wet with all of them to keep it strong. I have alot of glassing left to do, I cant wait till its over. Im getting ever so closer, the t-top has become a project in itself. I also found a slap disc that has a full radius around the entire edge of the wheel it is great for shaping inside radius, I'll take a pic of it tomorrow it is a must have for shaping inside corners saves alot of time.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:57 AM
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Beautiful day for fiberglass Kracker! I was hoping to have new V here but ran out of time yesterday.....Scrubbing on my '78 today.

Post pics of progress this eve!!!
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:39 PM
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So I laid out my patches to grind off the gelcoat and grinded for about 1 hour. MEK all surfaces and then glued the gunwale supports on. The pictures kinda speak for themselves. You will see numerous tie-in points from the 4" screws thru the entire rail to the glassed "strap" on top of the gunwale supports also locking in the rail and the gunwale supports. I taped the gunwale supports in with 4 inch 1708 strips. in the next couple days i will completely encapsulate them with 1708. They were rock solid when they were only glued!!!! they were then bullet proof when they were taped, and now they will be bomb proof when I wrap them with the final layer.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:44 PM
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You can see in these pics how I made the gunwale supports rock solid. Not only did I glue and screw them but I also glassed a strip on them inside and outside and kinda "tied" them together before I glassed them on the boat.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:51 PM
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heres how the bottom side of the rail has shaped up. I glassed one layer of 1708 to the band tying it into the hull I then at the point of contact to hull made a "fillet" or radius with thickened resin and chopped glass mixture. Just remember another layer of 1708 will rap that rail when I glass my cap to the hull. No chance of water intrusion under that rail!!!
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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Im off tomorrow so I will be roughing in the cap!! thank god!!! shes getting there fellas slowly but surely.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:46 PM
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I didnt get to the cap today. I concentrated on finishing up glassing the inner rail to the hull and encasulating some of the gunwale supports. As seen in the pics the bottom of the rail was filleted and the the cloth glassed down the liner about 1" 1/2.
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