Gas Prices

[macojoe]

Crude oil for May delivery rose 87 cents to $67.94 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Prices are up some 22 percent from a year ago and are within reach of the record $70.85 set on Aug. 30, after Hurricane Katrina.

But we are already paying more then after Katrina?? And we haven't hit that mark yet.

[reelapeelin]

The brilliant strategists who planned the invasion of Iraq figured to have all that oil flowin' in pretty short order...a hand-full of fanatics w/RPGs weren't in the plan...SO...we've paid out $300 BILLION in tax $$, 2500 American soldiers' lives, tens of thousands of casualties AND goin' on an EXTRA $2.00/ gal every time we fill up our trucks, cars and boats...THERE's the supply side (lack of it) in the supply and demand issue...it's a global business deal floated on the backs of American taxpayers and soldiers, only the deal didn't go down as the EXPERTS planned...

[willy]

I think we ought to consider adding a 52nd and maybe a 53rd state, after we clean out all the human waste there. Seems we do a lot of paying, dying and insult catching and maybe we ought to conduct ourselves like those we go to battle with, like buisness corps would do. We will call it a hostile takeover in payment for services rendered.
Either that or offer them the option in a one time vote, 25 year contract with oil at 20 a barrel or we annex part of your country permanantly.
I am liking this idea more and more everyday. And we are right next door to Iran now. Stop playing around, as Patton said about the Russians we have our Army's here we are going to have to do it sooner or later let me go. Tell Iran that in no uncertain terms in a initially private meeting so they can save face, that they are threatening the world and our friends with annihalation and we consider that an act of war. De-construct the nuclear facility and live in peace with us or we will destroy your entire infra-structure in 72 hours. And if we have one soldier die in the effort we will annex part of your country in payment for the effort you forced us to do.
Those in that area understand that kind of strength and the world as we know it will change, they don't want to go back to living in tents and mud huts again
There I've vented, I feel better now ;)

[parishht]

Since ethanol has been mentioned her,
what would happen if I were to burn E85 in my 1990 Evinrude 150???

[macojoe]

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigshrimpin]

I'm not an expert at this, but two stroke carb motors aren't exactly the ideal motor to use to burn ethanol. Some of the older rubber hoses, needles, etc. will not hold up. Oils can be premixed with ethanol, but the motor has to be jetted to run richer than when you burn regular gas. I also heard that ethanol is pretty tough on cranks and bearings . . . People that race boats will use ethanol . . . apparently they will run a full gallon of gas and oil mix through the engine after the race. DFI motors adjusted to run alcohol would be much better for this type of fuel.

[macojoe]

I plan on using extra oil in mine.

I will let the motor mix like it has always done, but when I fuel up I will add just a tad to the tanks.

[bigshrimpin]

What do you guys think of this?


> GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work
>
>This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola
>executive It came from one of his engineer buddies
>who retired from Halliburton. It's worth your
>consideration.
>
>Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit
>close to $4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might
>go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We
>need to take some intelligent, united action.
>
>Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes
>MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
>day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
>The oil companies just laughed at that because they
>knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
>refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
>to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
>thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
>really work. Please read on and join with us!
>
>By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
>about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
>$2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
>oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
>to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
>$1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to
>teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not
>sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
>day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we
>are going to see the price of gas come down is if we
>hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
>gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
>How?
>
>Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop
>buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if
>we all act together to force a price war.
>
>Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
>purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
>(which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
>selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
>prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
>companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
>impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
>and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now,
>don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and
>I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
>people!!
>
>I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us
>send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and
>those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
>3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
>the sixth group of people, we will have reached over
>THREE MILLION consumers.
>
>If those three million get excited and pass this on to
>ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
>been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
>guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>
>Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
>That's all!
>(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million
>and all you have to do is send this to 10 people....
>Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician.
>But I am. so trust me on this one.) :-)
>
>How long would all that take? If each of us sends
>this
>e-mail out to ten more people within one day of
>receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
>contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
>didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
>you! Acting together we can make a difference.
>
>If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
>on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL
>THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP
>THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
>

[parishht]

If you check on one of the myth sites like snopes.com,
they say this will not work, because Exxon/Mobil will just sell their gas to the other
companies that need it because of the influx of new customers.

Apparently this happens on a regular basis, that gas is just a
commodity that is bought and sold between companies.

[Bygracealone]

Parishht is absolutely correct. The influx of buyers to the other companies would simply mean that they will have to buy gas from the bigger companies and therefore the bigger companies would still be selling gas. In fact, it's not uncommon to see things like an Exxon truck pumping fuel into the tanks at a Chevron station or vice versa.

However, it seems to me, that the bigger companies would be affected to some degree. They would not make as much money on the retail end of things if they were only selling their gas to other gas companies. In other words, they wouldn't be able to sell their gas to other gas companies for the same amount of money they'd be able to sell it to the consumer.