Immigration Video

[willy]

According to the news channels, the house and senate web sites have been inundated with emails and phone calls from people. I have sent out 6 and my wife has done probably the same. Apparently the first couple of days after the announcement of the Bill being passed in the house they could not keep up with the overwhelming negative response.

In reference to your point Oz, they have been told, they know the polls on the issue.
WATCH WHAT THE SH!TBIRDS PASS

[willy]

According to the news channels, the house and senate web sites have been inundated with emails and phone calls from people. I have sent out 6 and my wife has done probably the same. Apparently the first couple of days after the announcement of the Bill being passed in the house they could not keep up with the overwhelming negative response.

In reference to your point Oz, they have been told, they know the polls on the issue.
WATCH WHAT THE SH!TBIRDS PASS

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

In reference to your point Oz, they have been told, they know the polls on the issue.
WATCH WHAT THE SH!TBIRDS PASS

My fear is it's too late...this much noise should have started long ago...now, even if it became law tomorrow, how ya gonna round up 12,000,000 people w/ no address and transport them out of the country?...that'd be QUITE an undertaking...and if you don't CLOSE the border, they'd be right back in short order ...

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

In reference to your point Oz, they have been told, they know the polls on the issue.
WATCH WHAT THE SH!TBIRDS PASS

My fear is it's too late...this much noise should have started long ago...now, even if it became law tomorrow, how ya gonna round up 12,000,000 people w/ no address and transport them out of the country?...that'd be QUITE an undertaking...and if you don't CLOSE the border, they'd be right back in short order ...

[willy]

Thats the fallacy of what we are being told. You do not have to round up 12 million people.
You just have to stop paying for their expenses and they will literally leave on their own accord.
Employer- you are fined 1000 a day for every illegal employee you have on your premises. Repeat offenders arrested.

Hospitals- the state and federal government will no longer subsidize free medical care, we are not telling you you can't give it, we will just not pay for it anymore, your choice.

Government- we will enforce the several hundred laws already on the books, police encounters with un-documented aliens will require incarceration until ID is established. If illegally in the country sent to a holding facility and shiped to country of origin.

Caught in the possession of illegal state documents, of which there is a multi million dollar industry now, mandatory prison sentence to hard labor, building roads hospitals schools. Wherever they can be used. Sentence finished sent to country of origin.

Secure our F@ckin borders, hold foreign governments responsible for their actions ( Mexico)

[willy]

Thats the fallacy of what we are being told. You do not have to round up 12 million people.
You just have to stop paying for their expenses and they will literally leave on their own accord.
Employer- you are fined 1000 a day for every illegal employee you have on your premises. Repeat offenders arrested.

Hospitals- the state and federal government will no longer subsidize free medical care, we are not telling you you can't give it, we will just not pay for it anymore, your choice.

Government- we will enforce the several hundred laws already on the books, police encounters with un-documented aliens will require incarceration until ID is established. If illegally in the country sent to a holding facility and shiped to country of origin.

Caught in the possession of illegal state documents, of which there is a multi million dollar industry now, mandatory prison sentence to hard labor, building roads hospitals schools. Wherever they can be used. Sentence finished sent to country of origin.

Secure our F@ckin borders, hold foreign governments responsible for their actions ( Mexico)

One thing bugs me about the video and the facts. They seem incomplete. Our nation is over 200 years old and yet he's only using the last 35 years? Also, he doesn't differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal (unless I missed that part). I don't think legal immigration is the problem at this point (as he suggests). It's the illegal immigration that's hurting us and we all have a problem with. Sure, congress can lower the number of immigrants we allow into this country, but that's not the answer to illegal immigration. I think the answer to that problem is what Willy said. As for the video, I'm left wondering of the true intentions of the speaker.

One thing bugs me about the video and the facts. They seem incomplete. Our nation is over 200 years old and yet he's only using the last 35 years? Also, he doesn't differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal (unless I missed that part). I don't think legal immigration is the problem at this point (as he suggests). It's the illegal immigration that's hurting us and we all have a problem with. Sure, congress can lower the number of immigrants we allow into this country, but that's not the answer to illegal immigration. I think the answer to that problem is what Willy said. As for the video, I'm left wondering of the true intentions of the speaker.

[willy]

Jeff agreed, I too am always cautious of the intentions of people with agenda that may not be good.
The problem here is that even if I discount who he is I cannot discount what he says. The facts he is using and displaying are from the Bureau of the Census. I saw very similar if not exact numbers quoted by various politicians over the years who dared speak out against the policies.
The reason I believe he does not diferentiate between legal and illegal immigration is, it does not matter, they are still immigration no matter how they get here.
You see big buisness (money) is the driving force here. You can pay much cheaper labor costs, no health benefits etc. to a immigration (legal,illegal) family than you can to a US worker. Eventually the number of laborers in these jobs gets swollen even more with amnesty and Zgreen cards that the competition for even these low paying jobs becomes very high and the corporate criminals make out even better.
The other driving force in this is quite frankly the democratic party in power in every large population center in this country. They cater to, pander to and supply programs to the illegal immigrant and the lower economic strata of our country. The government programs available is the democratic parties powerbase. It has been for three decades now. Making these illegals voting legal residents will in effect over the coming decade turn our system into a one party system. No more close numbers on the red states blue states thing, your choice will come down to which democrat you will take.
That is not speculation that is fact.
My brother always votes democratic, he can't stand them but he votes them in anyhow, why? Because he is in the communications workers union, and just like the trial lawyers assos. and the auto workers union and the teachers union they are voting themselves down a spiraling path that literally looks good now but when the rest of the story appears for our kids kids they will be looking for the kool aid.
We just don't have anyone speaking the truth that can get elected in this country, the media will crush any candidate that does, along with the hollywood elite and the political elite. The corporate crooks will have him assasinated if he does get elected, thats how strong they want this to keep going the way it is.
We email, call our politicians now and vote with this in mind regardless of party in every election coming up or we kiss it goodbye. It is literally that simple.

[willy]

Jeff agreed, I too am always cautious of the intentions of people with agenda that may not be good.
The problem here is that even if I discount who he is I cannot discount what he says. The facts he is using and displaying are from the Bureau of the Census. I saw very similar if not exact numbers quoted by various politicians over the years who dared speak out against the policies.
The reason I believe he does not diferentiate between legal and illegal immigration is, it does not matter, they are still immigration no matter how they get here.
You see big buisness (money) is the driving force here. You can pay much cheaper labor costs, no health benefits etc. to a immigration (legal,illegal) family than you can to a US worker. Eventually the number of laborers in these jobs gets swollen even more with amnesty and Zgreen cards that the competition for even these low paying jobs becomes very high and the corporate criminals make out even better.
The other driving force in this is quite frankly the democratic party in power in every large population center in this country. They cater to, pander to and supply programs to the illegal immigrant and the lower economic strata of our country. The government programs available is the democratic parties powerbase. It has been for three decades now. Making these illegals voting legal residents will in effect over the coming decade turn our system into a one party system. No more close numbers on the red states blue states thing, your choice will come down to which democrat you will take.
That is not speculation that is fact.
My brother always votes democratic, he can't stand them but he votes them in anyhow, why? Because he is in the communications workers union, and just like the trial lawyers assos. and the auto workers union and the teachers union they are voting themselves down a spiraling path that literally looks good now but when the rest of the story appears for our kids kids they will be looking for the kool aid.
We just don't have anyone speaking the truth that can get elected in this country, the media will crush any candidate that does, along with the hollywood elite and the political elite. The corporate crooks will have him assasinated if he does get elected, thats how strong they want this to keep going the way it is.
We email, call our politicians now and vote with this in mind regardless of party in every election coming up or we kiss it goodbye. It is literally that simple.