Roe-Wade Woman’s right of choice

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Just throwing this out there for consideration....

What if we took some of that 1.75 Trillion infrastructure bill that is now expected to actually be between 3-5 trillion dollars and established centers where unwanted children could be brought up in a loving, if somewhat sterile environment. Like an orphanage.

The cost of raising them keeps being brought up, but I wonder how much of that is real? I'm sure some of that is valid, but I wonder how much is real and how much is hyperbole? What did we do before 1972? (Besides the illegal abortion doctors) My point is there always seems to be money for pet projects that the taxpayers have to pay for, so why not this?

Good luck
Question remains - since you’re against women’s right to choose - will you adopt ?
I’m guessing no so what right do you or others have to force the issue ?
Those against often all “ high and mighty “ on this issue but that’s where it ends

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Good luck
Question remains - since you***8217;re against women***8217;s right to choose - will you adopt ?
I***8217;m guessing no so what right do you or others have to force the issue ?
Those against often all ***8220; high and mighty ***8220; on this issue but that***8217;s where it ends

First, I'm not against women's rights. I'm for infant's rights. The two need not be mutually exclusive.

My "right" is that it's wrong not to speak out. (Read my signature at the bottom of this post) It's immoral to kill defenseless babies because they are inconvenient, and if you cannot understand that simple logic then I truly feel sorry for you. It explains a lot though. You must be empty inside.

To answer you other question, I've been blessed with 3 children, so there was and is no reason for me to adopt. But in my younger days we also had several foster kids living with us over the years.

How many kids have you adopted? Have you ever provided a loving home as a Foster Parent? Why not?

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

First, I'm not against women's rights. I'm for infant's rights. The two need not be mutually exclusive.

My "right" is that it's wrong not to speak out. (Read my signature at the bottom of this post) It's immoral to kill defenseless babies because they are inconvenient, and if you cannot understand that simple logic then I truly feel sorry for you. It explains a lot though. You must be empty inside.

To answer you other question, I've been blessed with 3 children, so there was and is no reason for me to adopt. But in my younger days we also had several foster kids living with us over the years.

How many kids have you adopted? Have you ever provided a loving home as a Foster Parent? Why not?

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We’ve not adopted or fostered . Personal choice.
Just like being pro choice .
Infants don’t legally get aborted.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

We’ve not adopted or fostered . Personal choice.
Just like being pro choice .
Infants don’t legally get aborted.

Ummm... yes they do. Late term abortions, when there is a good chance of the infants survival, are legal.

It's really amazing how resilient babies are. When my third child was born he was jaundiced. and he wouldn't stabilize. After a week he was transferred to the neo-natal wing of St. Joseph's hospital in Paterson. (Seems because of the high amount of drug babies they receive they are one of the premier neo-natal hospitals on the east coast and one of the top 10 in the nation. (who knew!!). Anyway, while I was there, visiting my son in his incubator, I had the opportunity to see a tiny black doll... just a little over the size of a Barbie doll, lying on a white cloth on a platform like a baby scale under a bright light. And while I was looking at the doll, IT MOVED!!! It was a baby that was born while the mother was (I'm told) 6 months pregnant. They keep the babies under the lights to keep them warm. The entire wing was filled with tiny infants, some barely recognizable as babies... but all of them were alive. This whole notion that a baby isn't a person until it's born is just plain poppycock. It's a false narrative perpetuated by people and companies like Planned Parenthood that make a ton of money by killing babies.

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Ummm... yes they do. Late term abortions, when there is a good chance of the infants survival, are legal.

It's really amazing how resilient babies are. When my third child was born he was jaundiced. and he wouldn't stabilize. After a week he was transferred to the neo-natal wing of St. Joseph's hospital in Paterson. (Seems because of the high amount of drug babies they receive they are one of the premier neo-natal hospitals on the east coast and one of the top 10 in the nation. (who knew!!). Anyway, while I was there, visiting my son in his incubator, I had the opportunity to see a tiny black doll... just a little over the size of a Barbie doll, lying on a white cloth on a platform like a baby scale under a bright light. And while I was looking at the doll, IT MOVED!!! It was a baby that was born while the mother was (I'm told) 6 months pregnant. They keep the babies under the lights to keep them warm. The entire wing was filled with tiny infants, some barely recognizable as babies... but all of them were alive. This whole notion that a baby isn't a person until it's born is just plain poppycock. It's a false narrative perpetuated by people and companies like Planned Parenthood that make a ton of money by killing babies.

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I didn’t write a baby isn’t a person till it’s born - you’re spinning again.
I wrote when just a group of cells - with no brain and no heart it’s genetic potential to become a person .

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

I didn’t write a baby isn’t a person till it’s born - you’re spinning again.
I wrote when just a group of cells - with no brain and no heart it’s genetic potential to become a person .

So you agree with the new Texas law that is before the Supreme Court that prevents an abortion when a heartbeat is detectable? (usually after about 6 weeks) Good for you. That's a step in the right direction.

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

So you agree with the new Texas law that is before the Supreme Court that prevents an abortion when a heartbeat is detectable? (usually after about 6 weeks) Good for you. That's a step in the right direction.

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I didn’t agree with anything . I wrote DISAGREEMENT with your previous post

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

I didn’t agree with anything . I wrote DISAGREEMENT with your previous post

You wrote

As for “ murder “ question remains if not more correctly “ stopping a human from forming “
when the reality is cells alone with DNA but no brain, no heart within the legal limit.

I took that to mean that you thought that an embryo was a baby when it had a heart beat. And it cannot have a heartbeat unless it has a brain to tell the heart to beat. So I presumed that you were agreeing with the Texas law saying no abortions after a detectable heartbeat.

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

You wrote


I took that to mean that you thought that an embryo was a baby when it had a heart beat. And it cannot have a heartbeat unless it has a brain to tell the heart to beat. So I presumed that you were agreeing with the Texas law saying no abortions after a detectable heartbeat.

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Well what you took my comments to mean was WRONG .

YOU wrote about people who dont think its murder just because a baby hasnt been born yet. I am not one of those so called people who think that.

Ill repeat my position which was and still is :
Without a brain and heart its a collection of cells with DNA potential to become a baby.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Well what you took my comments to mean was WRONG .

YOU wrote about people who dont think its murder just because a baby hasnt been born yet. I am not one of those so called people who think that.

Ill repeat my position which was and still is :
Without a brain and heart its a collection of cells with DNA potential to become a baby.

Ok, so what is it WITH a heartbeat and a brain? When, in your opinion, is it a baby? When (morally) does it become murder?

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