Anchor bow roller install

[pjbrownva]

Originally Posted by scook

I thought mine looked kind of small ... is mine too small to be of interest?

@scook -- yours could be OK. I depends upon the size and type of anchor that someone wants to use. I guess the question is more for the O.P. to answer.

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"

That's really cool, @skunkBoat.

Since my homemade bow pulpit will have to be built again (it warped), I think that I'll buy a roller similar to yours instead.

I just ordered this off of Amazon.
bow roller.jpg
Based on your comments I think it will work very well!

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by scook

I thought mine looked kind of small and, yes I think the loop should probably go over the top - doesn’t make sense the way it is. I never used it.

The responses are a little confusing - is mine too small to be of interest? Just need to know if it should be stashed back with boat parts.

Thanks

Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"

Could you post a image of where you installed the deck pipe. I bought this one

https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe
says line size 1" am hoping 5/16" chain will work with it.


Cheers
Ashok

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by pjbrownva

@scook -- yours could be OK. I depends upon the size and type of anchor that someone wants to use. I guess the question is more for the O.P. to answer.



That's really cool, @skunkBoat.

Since my homemade bow pulpit will have to be built again (it warped), I think that I'll buy a roller similar to yours instead.

I just ordered this off of Amazon.
Attachment 8252
Based on your comments I think it will work very well!

I looked at that one too :) .. Let me know how it works out..

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by scook

The pic's should give you a pretty good idea of what it is. Let me know any questions - it's not very heavy and is all stainless, except for black composite roller.

A caution when drilling through the deck and into the carpet on the roof of the cuddy - it's VERY tough carpet material - I've broken several drill bits getting the carpet fiber wound around the bit.

It might be bit too small for my anchor , Here are the dimensions from the Mantus site ... its the 13lb one
https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-...-4e9dc02f-2e2e


I think the length is a bit short, but that can be adjusted, the bigger concern I have is the shank might be too big to fit through the loop over the roller.
Mantus has a bow roller for the anchor, but its about $270. These are the dimensions of their bow roller
https://www.mantusmarine.com/wp-cont...SIONS-2020.pdf



I could be wrong and you can possibly confirm for me , but the height on that loop is less than 5" correct? Bases on their specs, it appears that I would need that much space. I will also measure my shank today too to confirm.


** regarding Carpet ** I just removed the entire carpet from the cuddy It was oily and smelly and I just found that the cuddy was much cleaner with it off. Thanks for that tip though..

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by ashokrags

Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok

Hello All,
Sorry for the slow responses here. As you note above I had quite an adventurous time last week ..... LOL .


Anyways, here are some of the plans and welcome any suggestions. So far i have :

• Mantus M1 anchor - 13 lbs . Link below for dimensions :
  https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-...-4e9dc02f-2e2e

• 5/8" rope 300 ft Amarine from Amazon
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• Seadog lite deck pipe for chain - 1"
  https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe

I am thinkin of getting 15ft of 5/16" chain for the anchor. And then finally the bow roller for the anchor. In addition to the generous offer from @scook there are a couple of options I am looking at on Amazon

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=A9KT70ZMMRL0U
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1JQVFS5CBYWNO
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1NQT0D8VLNNLT

There are still a couple of nagging questions I have about anchor rollers

• Is the roller the one that bears the force? Previously i routed my anchor rope through chucks and then onto the bow cleat. So that is should it be load bearing?
• Can i install it off center? Any reason not to do that.. Would I have to move the light? .. Or is that because the light would not be visible anymore because of the bow roller?
• Still am confused about the deck pipe installation. Is it as simple as cutting a hole in the bow and mounting the deck-pipe i have listed up there or is there more i need to do? Also any thoughts on why I should not install the deck pipe in the cover to the cuddy?

This is how far i am now. Got the anchor and the rope and am going to pick up the chain today.. Will try to get the bow roller installed this month sometime


Much obliged for everyone's help and comments thus far.
Cheers
Ashok

[scook]

Intuitively, the roller would bear the vertical vector force and the cleat the horizontal. If you’re not in much of a current, those forces shouldn’t be much of an issue. Out here in the Columbia River it’s a very big deal - an anchor rope fouled in the propeller, so the boat is anchored at the stern can and has sunk boats.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by ashokrags

Could you post a image of where you installed the deck pipe. I bought this one

https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe
says line size 1" am hoping 5/16" chain will work with it.


Cheers
Ashok

WHY are you using chain, or is that just for the end of the rode? And for heavens ske, why 5/16"? This is a 20 foot boat that at best could be called either light weight or medium weight. It's not a heavy weight boat, and even if it were, for it's length you would only be using 3/16 PC (Proof Coil) chain with 3/8 nylon rope.

Personally, I like and use 1/2" nylon rope with 1/4 PC chain at the end, mostly because I like how it feels in my hands, NOT because of additional strength. Just pay attention to your line length (8:1 ratio) and you'll have no problems. Here's a good link for info on chain, line and all the hardware you will need. https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvis...ur-Anchor-Rode

[SkunkBoat]

5/8" line is way too much. Bigger is not better.

Too expensive when someday you have to cut off (and your expensive anchor)...
You need too much room to store it!
300ft only gets you 60ft deep on a nice day. You'll be lucky to get 300ft of 5/8" in there.

3/8 ...7/16" is nice for pulling.

1/4" chain. 15' of 5/16 is too heavy.

That deck pipe will not fit chain. I have one in the 'never gonna use this" pile in my garage. You need the bigger round one or the oval one. I drilled a hole in deck and inside cabin to get to anchor locker. used a piece of cheap landscape drainage pipe siliconed between holes.

I saw a picture on the Mantis site of a Mantis in the same pivoting roller as mine.

here is a pic of the deck pipe

[scook]

It may not be relevant to how you use your anchors, but here’s my program:
When the rats got into my 3/8” line, I had already purchased 1/2” for easier grip (not for strength - the 3/8” held in very strong current, even bent my anchor when it got caught under a big rock). I now have a bunch of really nice rope to tie stuff on my truck.
I have three lengths of anchor line for different depths. This is so I don’t have a huge gob of line to toss overboard with a float when we drop off the anchor to play a fish and can come back to the same spot.
I connect the line to the chain with an openable link, so I can switch lines easily and it lets me leave the chain on deck, coiled around the bow cleat and drop the line into a basket in the cuddy.
This works for me, probably because I’ve rigged the sliding hatch to come completely off and stow in a rack under the deck - those hatches are a big pain for doing anchor work.