Wellcraft V20 Community

Go Back   Wellcraft V20 Community > Wellcraft V-20 Forums > Performance
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Unread 10-16-2009, 08:27 AM
joe7670 joe7670 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Miami
Posts: 422
Default

What does NOS stand for?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread 10-16-2009, 08:34 AM
Skools Out's Avatar
Skools Out Skools Out is offline
God
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Graham / Emerald Isle, NC
Posts: 5,926
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joe7670 View Post
What does NOS stand for?

lol

New
Old
Stock
__________________




1978 V20 Cuddy w/ 225 Johnson. And Several other boat's
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread 10-16-2009, 09:22 AM
joe7670 joe7670 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Miami
Posts: 422
Default

For the life of me I couldn't decifer it! LOL

How come it's only 4 years. Isn't Merc. running the 5 year warranty deal now?

Wouldn't bother me since they are providing warranty anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread 10-16-2009, 11:28 AM
reyb reyb is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 113
Default

The guy that has the motor wasn't sure about the warranty so that's why I put "(?)" :)

Regarding what Spares said about a total loss w/out an internal damage, I read the same
thing. The bolt on parts aren't cheap. I don't like the idea of having to think about getting
rid of the motor before the warranty is up.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread 10-16-2009, 11:58 AM
RidgeRunner's Avatar
RidgeRunner RidgeRunner is offline
God
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lakeland, Fl
Posts: 2,526
Default

Opti power is nice. That 150hp is a seven cylinder. 6 burn fuel one pumps air. The fuel burn is like the 4-strokes but not as quiet, I agree they are costly in repairs out of warranty but they all are. I have a 2001 Opti 225 with 500 hrs. I swear it burns less fuel than my 90 Johnson carb motor.
Willy, I hate to burst bubble but my Opti uses half the fuel of the carb motors or the EFI motors in the same hp.
I believe the Opti to be a good direct injected motor but there is no way it will last like the carb motors of yesteryear. Most carb motors have 1600 hours in them (conservatively) before they need to be freshened up, rebuild it and go for another 1600. I have heard of captains that got 2500 hours with their carb motors, all brands. Recreational boaters have to boat a lot in a year to reach 100 hours.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread 10-16-2009, 12:07 PM
willy's Avatar
willy willy is offline
God
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 9,406
Default

no doubt Ridge, did not mean to imply that there would not be a difference, don't believe i did. I do say that the difference is not worth to me anyhow, the cost of purchase and the cost of any repairs, and when I throw in the incredible longevity I don't believe there is any comparison.
__________________
Willy
1986 V20 Old School
1992 V20 1992 150 Yamaha
1997 HydraSport 2250 Vector
2009 17' G3 Outfitter "G Spot"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDebw...eature=related
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid on a hand on. I don't do these things to others and I require the same from them" JW
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 10-16-2009, 01:24 PM
reelapeelin's Avatar
reelapeelin reelapeelin is offline
God
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 15,610
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RidgeRunner View Post
Opti power is nice. That 150hp is a seven cylinder. 6 burn fuel one pumps air. The fuel burn is like the 4-strokes but not as quiet, I agree they are costly in repairs out of warranty but they all are. I have a 2001 Opti 225 with 500 hrs. I swear it burns less fuel than my 90 Johnson carb motor.
Willy, I hate to burst bubble but my Opti uses half the fuel of the carb motors or the EFI motors in the same hp.
I believe the Opti to be a good direct injected motor but there is no way it will last like the carb motors of yesteryear. Most carb motors have 1600 hours in them (conservatively) before they need to be freshened up, rebuild it and go for another 1600. I have heard of captains that got 2500 hours with their carb motors, all brands. Recreational boaters have to boat a lot in a year to reach 100 hours.

This is my friend's cat we used to go to the Gulf Stream in regularly...1999 model Optis and when he passed away earlier this year, these motors had 2,000 hours on 'em. A typical trip was push away at 4 a.m., 60-70 miles out of Charleston, troll all day, then return to the dock...on 90 or so gals reg gas...that's running 26kts at 3500 rpms out and back, then REDLINE it up the ditch for a 1/2 mile back to the marina...he ran 'em, but babied 'em too




GOOD motors!!...
__________________
'74 V-20/ BF 150
'95 V-21/ BF 150
'84 V-20/ 200 2.4 Merc
'87 V-20/'18 F150 Yamaha



http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/MJ-hide/Iphone201205.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 10-16-2009, 01:46 PM
RidgeRunner's Avatar
RidgeRunner RidgeRunner is offline
God
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lakeland, Fl
Posts: 2,526
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by willy View Post
no doubt Ridge, did not mean to imply that there would not be a difference, don't believe i did. I do say that the difference is not worth to me anyhow, the cost of purchase and the cost of any repairs, and when I throw in the incredible longevity I don't believe there is any comparison.
You didn't imply, I was just commenting about your fuel sipping Yamaha. Even though it sips the new generation motors sip so much less it is incredible. I couldn't agree more about the longevity of the carb motors. So much so I am hedging my bet. I have an older 250EFI on my 20 right now, it was really not for the 20 in the first place, it is going to replace the 225 Opti on the Whaler whenever it goes south. The 250 EFI has a much less complicated injection system that is easy to work on and bolts right up to the midsection on the Opti. The Whaler has a 160 gallon tank which will be necessary when the switch happens the 250 burns a lot more fuel.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 10-16-2009, 02:12 PM
RidgeRunner's Avatar
RidgeRunner RidgeRunner is offline
God
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lakeland, Fl
Posts: 2,526
Default

This is my friend's cat we used to go to the Gulf Stream in regularly...1999 model Optis and when he passed away earlier this year, these motors had 2,000 hours on 'em. A typical trip was push away at 4 a.m., 60-70 miles out of Charleston, troll all day, then return to the dock...on 90 or so gals reg gas...that's running 26kts at 3500 rpms out and back, then REDLINE it up the ditch for a 1/2 mile back to the marina...he ran 'em, but babied 'em too-- Reel
Sweet boat...
Those were the early model Opti's, the newer ones are supposed to be even better. I think 3500 to 4000 is the sweet spot on MPG. Sorry for the passing of a fishin buddy, that sucks. I wonder what repairs he had to make, 2000 hours is a lot.
Cyress Gardens used mid range motors on their pontoon boats, mostly 90hp OMC, and they had it down to a science. They would change the motors out after 1800 hours. I bought one, the pistons were so sloppy in the bore the rings caught the porting, broke and messed the heads up after another 20 hours of use. A charter boat captain out of Mosquito Lagoon has a 250xs opti that is only six months old that has been in the shop four times for eating coil packs. It is his second or third Opti, he still loves them but he was not happy with the down time. I have heard of so many powerheads replaced under warranty, I hope mine lives for another 500 hours or so. LOL If I was only so lucky.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 10-16-2009, 04:55 PM
spareparts's Avatar
spareparts spareparts is offline
God
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 6,192
Default

another thing to know regarding any of the newer style engines(2 stroke and 4 stroke) is that the manufactures are not treating fuel issues under warranty, any trash or water, and clogged injectors, fuel pumps that are stuck up, all related to bad fuel and or sitting up without proper treatment, all not covered. Opti injectors are around $300, it takes 12 for a V6, 6 fuel, and 6 air(yes, they go bad also), they can be cleaned for around $80 each. Fuel pressure regulators on the fuel rail are not servaceable, they include the fuel rail(around $1300). The platinum plugs are $29 each, plus you can put over $100 of filters(air and fuel) at your next tune up. Now throw HPDI's in the ring, high pressure fuel pumps are over $1000, I can't find any one to clean(and guarantee) HPDI injectors, Injectors are over $300 each(only 6 to mess with). Electric fuel pumps are over $600(fourstroke also), the high pressure fuel filter was over $300, dealers complained about it so much they dropped the price to around $120(?, I haven't had to replace one lately), still pretty high. Add in DFI oil($35-$45a gal), adn ring free or carbon guard(highly recomended) at $20 per 100 gal. These things get real expensive,real quick. They can save you a lot on fuel, but they will eat you alive on other issues. I looked at a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke the other day, it wouldn't shut off, you could unplug the harness and it would keep running, you could lightly tap the computer and it would shut off, guess what, $1300 for the computer. lately, teh most expensive things I've been seeing is trim systems, just worked on a Johnzuki, had over $850 in parts on the trim system( '03 140 fourstroke), put a trim motor on a 225 yamaha, $580 for the motor. Makes me like the old 2 strokes better and better, Of course, these new motors are what keeps me in business
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.