Time to pay Attention

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by rb437

"give a different approach some time to work"

Tax and spend is not a different approach.

Is that because the prior approach worked so well?...

[RWilson2526]

I'm with Reel....but thats all I'm saying or Willy will never invite me fishing

[willy]

GW, along with a democratic controlled congress passed large deficit budgets that many conservatives, independents and democrats criticized vehemently.
Nobody listened
GW along with Obama and McCain pushed thru a stimulus package that put this country in a huge debt.
As of the two spending aka stimulus packages passed this year along with the largest single deficit in our nations history were passed under Obama. Made the spending by Bush look trivial in comparison.
The Democratically controlled Congressional Office of Budget and Managment told the entire country right up front that we cannot carry this debt, the small amount going to actually stimulate anything would not compensate for the massive debt and printing of money(inflation) that will come from it.
In fact they said if you did nothing this recession would likely run its course in 12-18 months.
Every single economist of merit said the same thing, your blue dog Congressman and senators from the south told him that.
They were told to shut up, they experienced ad campaigns in their home districts paid for by George Soros and his front group Move on dot org. criticizing these men and women for standing up and telling the truth.
You cannot spend your way out of debt, you cannot print money by the billions to finance a socialistic agenda and expect free Americans to stand by quietly.
You cannot use your cronies in the press and media to silence dissent in America
You cannot refer to those Americans who believe in God, who believe in our Constitution and all of the Bill of Rights as right wing loons.
I dont care if you are black or white or yellow, I dont care if you are a Dem a republican an independent or whatever else is out there. What is being done here is horrible and to say this agenda just needs some time to work is the attitude that got us in this mess with Bush and now this Obamination.
Neither are listening to the people who pay the bills here, they quite frankly could not care less, you see now there are enough people on the government t!t in the major cities to keep them in power for a long time.
Until the people of all colors, all backgrounds all parties recognize that the Federal Government is gone way beyond "out of control" and has designs on controlling everything about our lives then we are doomed to follow in the footsteps of the Europeans who now have nationalized banks, transportation, medicine and are not alowwed to possess firearms etc. etc and roll to the tune of whatever the government says.
If you cannot see the agenda you need to step back and look.
It is right in front of you

[Mac_Attack]

Reel I'm with you. It's Barracks time to take the shots. GW did his share and maybe the tea party's were protesting what he left us with. It's good that we differ. Billy Mac

[willy]

Left us with, did you not see the numbers just passed in the last three months, tarp 2, tarp 3, and a budget with more pork than ever in our history, a budget with a deficit three times larger than all the deficits ever done in budgets in total in our history.
These are not republicans numbers, these are the numbers from the congressional budget office.
Three times larger than all the deficits in history added together.
Sorry as screwed up as Bush was, as glad as I am to see him out of office these numbers and the results to follow fall all on the hands of the democratic controlled house and the Obamination himself. Even under Bush the major deficits came in his last two years when the democratic house and senate gained control and passed their budgets. yes he signed them and shame on him.
Shame on all these parasites, shame on them for putting our country in jeapordy, shame on them for allowing this to happen.
Thats what the tea parties were about, not a right wing conspiracy, but Americans who have some common sense who are scared for the future.
Americans who have had enough paying between 40-50 percent of what they earn to state and federal governments that have grown to be monsters, irresponsible monsters.
Right now we are in a spending spiral that has us spending 14 percent of our gross domestic product. That is considered in the entire world by all economies as a failing economy. We are right in league with all the third world countries who borrow from the world bank because they are above the 10% mark.
I do not need to wait anymore to know where we stand, even China and Czechoslavakia and Germany are telling us to change our direction before we bring down the economies of the entire world with our debt.
My God how far we have come, we need Europe and China to tell us to change direction.
Shame on all of them, they need to be removed from office, they all need to be be thrown out in the next election.

[spareparts]

Reel, whats your take on Sanford?

[rb437]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Is that because the prior approach worked so well?...

Not suggesting that the prior approach did work. Judging from where we are today, it seems clear that it didn't. I don't care what side of the aisle your on, there's plenty of blame to go around. As it says at the bottom of every one of your posts Reel "Nothing resembles a democrat more than a republican..." I didn't vote for Obama, but that doesn't mean I want him to fail. I'm sure he wants to do what he feels is in the best interest of the country. I just don't agree that we can spend more than we have to work our way out of a problem that was created by spending more than we have. Enough is enough. You don't get out of debt by spending more, you get out of debt by spending less. The problem is a lack of confidence in the economy. How does continuing down the path that got us here inspire confidence? The Tea Party folks are basically saying that we've given enough of our hard earned money to Republicans and Democrats and we don't have confidence that giving more will help. In fact I think it is more likely to hurt. You want to stimulate the economy? Give me my money back. I'll stimulate the economy where it matters most to me, right here at home with the local business run by my friends and neighbors. Give my friends and neighbors their money back and they'll do the same. Next thing you know we're all better off. It took more than W to cause this, it's going to take more than Obama to fix it.
Willy's right, throw them all out in the next election. Then we need term limits

[Bygracealone]

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

Originally Posted by rb437

Not suggesting that the prior approach did work. Judging from where we are today, it seems clear that it didn't. I don't care what side of the aisle your on, there's plenty of blame to go around. As it says at the bottom of every one of your posts Reel "Nothing resembles a democrat more than a republican..." I didn't vote for Obama, but that doesn't mean I want him to fail. I'm sure he wants to do what he feels is in the best interest of the country. I just don't agree that we can spend more than we have to work our way out of a problem that was created by spending more than we have. Enough is enough. You don't get out of debt by spending more, you get out of debt by spending less. The problem is a lack of confidence in the economy. How does continuing down the path that got us here inspire confidence? The Tea Party folks are basically saying that we've given enough of our hard earned money to Republicans and Democrats and we don't have confidence that giving more will help. In fact I think it is more likely to hurt. You want to stimulate the economy? Give me my money back. I'll stimulate the economy where it matters most to me, right here at home with the local business run by my friends and neighbors. Give my friends and neighbors their money back and they'll do the same. Next thing you know we're all better off. It took more than W to cause this, it's going to take more than Obama to fix it.
Willy's right, throw them all out in the next election. Then we need term limits

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

Shame on all of them, they need to be removed from office, they all need to be be thrown out in the next election.

Now HERE is where you and I could not agree more!!...(AMAZIN' AIN'T IT!!)

There are a little over 50 or so registered political parties in the US...there's no doubt in my mind that it's time to register one more w/the common goal of kicking the fat and happy status-quo politicians out on their butts and bring back common sense...the taxes we're paying are outta control and the powers the fed has now are outrageous...

lobbyists: OUT
politics:OUT
career politicians:OUT
earmarks:OUT
flat tax:IN
gun control:OUT
illegal aliens:OUT

the list could go on and on, but those few corrections to the way our country is being run would clear up a LOT of BullSh-t and get us going on a path we'd be proud to leave our children with...

but we'll never do it DIVIDED...the time is ripe for another party of voters tired of the BS to come together and take back the country we've pledged allegiance to all our lives...it got lost some time back...

[Mac_Attack]

Reel I'm with you here too! I won't say anymore because you have said it so well. Billy Mac