Yamaha 225 4 stroke to heavy? - Page 2

macojoe · #11 03-25-2009, 03:53 PM

here is my set up

bradford · #12 03-25-2009, 03:54 PM

If I had a hard on for a 4 stroke I'd try and find a 140 johnzuki like randleman's with the right prop. I run a 225 2 stroke (475lbs. +/-)mounted to the transom and I think it's way over kill for the boat plus alot of extra weight in the stern.

cterrebonne · #13 03-25-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bradford

If I had a hard on for a 4 stroke I'd try and find a 140 johnzuki like randleman's with the right prop. I run a 225 2 stroke (475lbs. +/-)mounted to the transom and I think it's way over kill for the boat plus alot of extra weight in the stern.

+2 i had the same setup but a little heavier you have to either bury the tabs or run fast.

bradford · #14 03-25-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cterrebonne

+2 i had the same setup but a little heavier you have to either bury the tabs or run fast.

I don't have any tabs so I guess i get option #2. If I wanted to carry extra weight I'd want it to be increased fuel capacity. Extra weight means extra gas consumption and poorer handling.

THEFERMANATOR · #15 03-25-2009, 04:27 PM

The set-up MJ had was roughly 380-390 engine and 115 pounds or a little less of bracket. Plus the cuddies had more weight forward to begin with. If your after some top end and a 4 stroke, the 175 SUZUKI will be your best bet for lower weight. A 25" shaft will weigh in around 485 or so dressed out since it's a 4 cylinder, plus it's said to be pretty torquey and swings a good sized prop. The 150/175 YAMAHA HPDI is said to be pretty bullet proof in the later years and didn't have the problems the bigger engines had. Not to certain on the 200's as I believe they had 2 different 200 HPDI's(small block and big block). A used 175 ETEC or 03+ DFI EVINRUDE can be had reasoneabl;y priced and is really good on fuel to boot. And they are pretty lightweight compared to the 4 strokes. Personally all of the newer engines would worry me if they weren't under warranty. FICHT's, OPTIMAX's, and HPDI's can be REALLY expensive to fix if something in the fuel injection system goes out. A 4 stroke is expensive in maintence compared to a 2 stroke, but they really aren't that bad if your fairly handy with a wrench.

I've chosen the old school route as I can buy ALOT of gas for what I save in maintence, repair costs, and initial investment. I've considered going with a FICHT to extend my range out to get to some of my remote spots, but I can't bring myself to do it as one repair even doing the work myself could get VERY costly.

steplift20 · #16 03-25-2009, 08:16 PM

to heavy you dont and wont need that much hp go with a 150 mercury sorry guy im a mercury fan

BenFishin · #17 03-26-2009, 07:09 AM

Well i am definately convinced not to buy the 225. Thats what forums like this and good people are for. I looked extremely hard to find a 175 suzuki when i couldnt find hardly any used suzukis i gave that search up. The same goes with the etec. I would like a 200 etec as they are still very light. Right now, for the right price i would go with a 150/175 suzuki, 150/175 HPDI or a f150. Did they make the johnzuki bigger then 140? I thought long and hard about the 140 but its not going to give me the torque/speed i am looking for. And im not in need of a ton of top end but being able to beat a storm home or power up the backside of 10-14ft breakers on the way back home from the shoals is a must. I dont think a 140 is going to do it.

Now i guess i shall look into posting some pics up here.

MJ - I am goin to try and post a pic of my transom to see if you think yours is the same shape. Mine has a rather significant bend to it.

cterrebonne · #18 03-26-2009, 08:17 AM

i ran alot of engines in my time. im not sure if anyone here is running a 150/175 60deg johnrude. but the low end and mid ragne not even merc can match ( i own more mercs than j/e so its an unbiased opinion) if you are not concerned with fuel efficientcy, meaning, you might use your boat 2-3 times a month which most people can do. the 3-4k in price would not be beneficial as oppose to the fuel savings you would see. now if you needed the extra range to due fuel tank limitations then the newer technology would be a must. im sure anyone on here whos ever been in some really really snotty seas will say that nothing makes it worse than an under powered boat.

macojoe · #19 03-26-2009, 08:56 AM

If you prop it right you will have all the torque you want or need.

As for the curve in the transom, all V20's have it. I cut wedges out of a 4x4 PT on the corners, then covered with marine tex to seal and look like the rest of the bracket.

BenFishin · #20 03-26-2009, 11:17 AM

That was a good idea. did you run the bolt all the way through the 4x4? That set back is alot further back then the bracket i have but i like yours better. if you dont mind me asking how much did it run you? I have a extremly strong bracket that was custom made that i think i could sell or possibly trade someone. It has a jack plate on it as well.

As for the johnrude. i am trying to keep my next motor fuel injected and rather new 03-present. All this work i dont want to put something old on the back. I would def kill for a 175-200 etec tho. Yall keep your eyes peeled!