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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:15 PM
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I understand your logic, Destroyer. But I think the value of this forum, at least when discussing the sale price of a V20/21, is whether it is fair or not regardless of the financial situation of the individual. Condition, region, model, engine, etc.

I'm biased since I own a V21, but I would say that this V21 could be a very good deal, especially if you are partial to Vs, and V21s in particular.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:44 PM
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In Destroyers defense, the price has been lowered since his original post. The price you are seeing on the CL ad is not the same price that Destroyer was referring to in his original post from almost a week ago.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 04:09 PM
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In Destroyers defense, the price has been lowered since his original post. The price you are seeing on the CL ad is not the same price that Destroyer was referring to in his original post from almost a week ago.
Gotcha.....what was he asking prior ? $ 100,000 ?
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Bgreene, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I have to completely disagree with you. First off, since I doubt that the financial news reads these posts, I don't think that my labeling a boat as pricy is going to drag down it's value, so lets stop with the retoric. I wrote the post as it related to me. You have no idea as to my financal situation. To a begger, a $3.99 hamburger is pricey. To a billionaire, a $500 million dollar private jet is just pocket change. Everything relates back to whoever is making the statement. Now, to me, that V21 is pricey. I cannot easly afford it. It is not a statement as to it's worth to someone else, or even to it's retail value. It's simply a statement as it's cost, relative to me. If you are rich, or at least financally comfortable, and can easily afford that boat, then by all means, call it a low price or a fair price. And for you, you would be correct in your call. But for me, since I cannot afford it, I will continue to call things that I would like, but cannot easily afford, .... pricey.
Typically " wish I could afford it "......or " wish I had the money" goes with that. All I'm saying is a V21 with a 200hp, full enclosure and trailer....assuming in good shape asking under $ 7,000 is a darn good buy....a boat to jump on and check out if someone's in the market, and all things considered.....a real fair deal. I'd be on it today if I didn't have my own V21.

We own V's, so to me........ unless a guys asking crazy high money, I say calling it " pricey" can only diminish the perceived value....that's all. No big deal beyond that.
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Unread 10-12-2011, 03:31 PM
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Bgreene, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I have to completely disagree with you. First off, since I doubt that the financial news reads these posts, I don't think that my labeling a boat as pricy is going to drag down it's value, so lets stop with the retoric. I wrote the post as it related to me. You have no idea as to my financal situation. To a begger, a $3.99 hamburger is pricey. To a billionaire, a $500 million dollar private jet is just pocket change. Everything relates back to whoever is making the statement. Now, to me, that V21 is pricey. I cannot easly afford it. It is not a statement as to it's worth to someone else, or even to it's retail value. It's simply a statement as it's cost, relative to me. If you are rich, or at least financally comfortable, and can easily afford that boat, then by all means, call it a low price or a fair price. And for you, you would be correct in your call. But for me, since I cannot afford it, I will continue to call things that I would like, but cannot easily afford, .... pricey.
thought I understood but then I kept reading and got totally confused
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Unread 10-12-2011, 04:00 PM
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Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!
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Unread 10-12-2011, 08:20 PM
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Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!
Hey " your honor" ....... I respectfully reject your ruling that " none of us are right."
Eventually nearly all of us sell our boat, and at that time, I bet none of us would appreciate comments such as " pricey" when we're asking a proven fair market price for our rig.
I say........if you're not buying, leave the sellers post alone or send him a private email if you have a strong opinion that you feel compelled to share.....better than hurting his ability to sell it with negative comments.
As for the Seacraft Sceptre - I'd love to get one. A great boat based on everything I know, and fairly hard to find one in excellent condition..........that is.....for a " fair price" !!!!ha ha.
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Unread 10-13-2011, 09:11 AM
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A good deal = what ever a person is willing to pay for something.Not what ever someone else thinks it's worth
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I really want to try one of those $45 steaks.
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Unread 10-13-2011, 12:18 PM
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I really want to try one of those $45 steaks.
Go to a Ruth's Chris...they'll bend ya over like ya never been bent!!...glad I was on an expense account...will never go on my dime...
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