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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

1) be careful

2) You said:



Might I point out that is exactly what the Democrats are doing right this minute?
1. Identify and blame a group for nearly everything. The Democrats are constantly blaming conservatives for being racist, homophobic xenophobic and a host of other phobics.

2. Attach the blame to nationalism. The democrats touted a Build back Better flag waving campaign while stating that President trump failed to protect us from Covid, open borders, etc.

3. Continue to blame and lies until establishing power. That's simple enough. Just look around at our even more open border they said they would close, the over 2 million illegal aliens that are now in the US, heck just about anything they promised but haven't delivered on as of now while they continue to blame everything on others. Inflation, rising gas prices, rising food costs, the Afghanistan debacle, unprecedented crime in the streets just to name a few. They blame everyone but themselves.

4. this is the part trump hasn't achieved YET is then persecute any opposition
You mean like the people that have been held in jail for over a year for their part in the Jan 6 demonstration? Or the witch hunt that the Democrats are doing right now trying to link President Trump to that demonstration. Or the 2 failed impeachment trials where they lied about Russian Collusion and the Steele Dossier? They (Democrats) are actively censoring anyone that doesn't agree with them. THEY ARE PERSECUTING ANY OPPOSITION ALREADY.

These are the people that are a threat to our democracy, not Trump, not Conservatives. Liberal, Socialist, Communist Democrats!!

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Not Trump Nooooo all of his own WORDS and ACTIONS are not to be accepted for what they are.

Many of us hear Trumps own WORDS and ACTIONS for what they are, and for what he is .
And without need to write masterpieces of denial

Any of the violent people that attacked our Capitol police, and made terroristic threats to kill our Vice President SHOULD still be in Jail.
Along with the lying cheating con traitor trump himself.

And dont tell me to be careful destroyer - sounds like a threat.

[scook]

Bgreene should read this post by Destroyer to see what a post that is researched, true to experience and intellectually honest looks like. By contrast, his posts boast truth and facts, but mostly range from deeply biased opinion, to wild conspiracy theories, chief among them the Hitler narrative while ignoring, as Destroyer points out succinctly, that the democrats are executing that narrative quite successfully right now.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

Bgreene should read this post by Destroyer to see what a post that is researched, true to experience and intellectually honest looks like. By contrast, his posts boast truth and facts, but mostly range from deeply biased opinion, to wild conspiracy theories, chief among them the Hitler narrative while ignoring, as Destroyer points out succinctly, that the democrats are executing that narrative quite successfully right now.

Please list proof !

As for Trump - his encouraged Insurrection request to “ fight like hell” and Guillianis comment for “ trial by combat “ is just ONE piece of evidence .

What do you have scook ? “ you got nothing” as the saying goes .

By the way , Trump lost the election by more than 8 MILLION popular votes.
As in 8,000,000 .
The pillow man had nothing.
Trumps auditors had nothing.
Because trump LOST .

[scook]

For a start, you can read Destroyer’s post - it lays out quite a bit.

You and others hear Trump’s words for what you project onto them, not remotely what he usually means by them. That’s been the left’s dishonest tactic since his first indication of running for the office. Fight like hell is such a worn out phrase, not suggesting violence, used mostly by democrats, but also Republicans for as long as I can remember, but Trump says it and it immediately means something different - the most biased, twisted interpretation is stuck onto it.

Packing the country with illegal immigrants and weakening voter ID protections to gain power.

Creating lawlessness to destroy their opposition - literally.

Attacking the 2nd amendment to make themselves feel better, while only diminishing people’s Constitutional right to be armed, among other things for self defense - remember the Constitution that you’re so concerned about (when it suits your narrow, simplistic purposes)? There’s a communist/fascist tactic that gives the government total control, used by your pal Herr Hitler, the Russians, Chinese, every totalitarian regime in the world.

Nearly the highest corporate taxes in the world, driving business out of the US.

This is probably all wasted on you, but it’s a good faith effort to answer your question. Now will you ignore it and come back with some unconnected statements - probably.

[bgreene]

Guns - easier to get than a drivers license.
1. Flea market type selling forums should not be allowed.
2. Assault type weapons - civilians don’t need them
As a licensed person who was introduced to shooting as a kid, I support these efforts at more restricted controls. Wackos get guns too easily.

Hitler - don’t refer to him as my buddy .
You should show a degree of integrity .

[oteps]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Guns - easier to get than a drivers license.
1. Flea market type selling forums should not be allowed.
2. Assault type weapons - civilians don’t need them
As a licensed person who was introduced to shooting as a kid, I support these efforts at more restricted controls. Wackos get guns too easily.

Hitler - don’t refer to him as my buddy .
You should show a degree of integrity .

We all can have a drivers license if we pass the test and legally get one right? Why not the same with a gun?

To buy off a "flea market type" forum you still have to go by all the laws of your state, so no different than buying a gun from your neighbor.

What is an assault weapon to you? Why do you think civilians dont need them?

[scook]

Accusing me of ANY breech of integrity is barking up the wrong tree. You do need to be careful. I've been in support of you not being kicked off of the site until now, but that can change. Either present some very credible examples or take it back if you want to preserve any hint of integrity yourself.

I think you probably understand the "your pal Herr Hitler" reference as what it is was intended - he is your ally (handy device) in promulgating your ludicrous conspiracy theory. I think it is more likely just another thing for you to pretend to be offended by to justify your victim status, but I really don't care.

You show a pretty thorough lack of understanding of firearms issues:

• It's not your place to decide what I need or don't need, nor is it up to you which parts of the Constitution should be ignored.
• Restricting felons, domestic violence offenders, gang affiliates, legitimately mentally ill people and others who really shouldn't have access to weapons is appropriate, but it's not what the liberals target. They want all guns gone and miss no opportunity to reduce where and when an honest, law abiding person can possess their gun. It is the height of idiocy to create a "gun free zone", where only non-law abiding people will be armed - have you noticed that these are the places where virtually all mass murders take place?
• "Assault type" weapons, which no one has adequately defined - let's say semi-automatic rifles with high capacity magazines for the sake of discussion are very effective for self defense. They are much more accurate in the hands of older folks than pistols - an ideal home defense tool.
• I agree that guns shouldn't be sold at flea markets and that reasonable background checks are a good idea, but laws should target people who shouldn't have guns, not those who should be free to own and carry them. Consider your favorite lawyer to bash, Mayor Guliani, who saved HUNDREDS of lives (even with extreme gun control in New York) with intelligent police use of technology and the stop & frisk policy - that actually targeted bad guys with guns, but the liberals found it too offensive and didn't want the street thugs to feel targeted and abused - where did murder rates go after stop & frisk was stopped, and where are they now? There would probably be a lot less murder if the good guys could carry guns in New York.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

Accusing me of ANY breech of integrity is barking up the wrong tree. You do need to be careful. I've been in support of you not being kicked off of the site until now, but that can change. Either present some very credible examples or take it back if you want to preserve any hint of integrity yourself.

I think you probably understand the "your pal Herr Hitler" reference as what it is was intended - he is your ally (handy device) in promulgating your ludicrous conspiracy theory. I think it is more likely just another thing for you to pretend to be offended by to justify your victim status, but I really don't care.

You show a pretty thorough lack of understanding of firearms issues:

• It's not your place to decide what I need or don't need, nor is it up to you which parts of the Constitution should be ignored.
• Restricting felons, domestic violence offenders, gang affiliates, legitimately mentally ill people and others who really shouldn't have access to weapons is appropriate, but it's not what the liberals target. They want all guns gone and miss no opportunity to reduce where and when an honest, law abiding person can possess their gun. It is the height of idiocy to create a "gun free zone", where only non-law abiding people will be armed - have you noticed that these are the places where virtually all mass murders take place?
• "Assault type" weapons, which no one has adequately defined - let's say semi-automatic rifles with high capacity magazines for the sake of discussion are very effective for self defense. They are much more accurate in the hands of older folks than pistols - an ideal home defense tool.
• I agree that guns shouldn't be sold at flea markets and that reasonable background checks are a good idea, but laws should target people who shouldn't have guns, not those who should be free to own and carry them. Consider your favorite lawyer to bash, Mayor Guliani, who saved HUNDREDS of lives (even with extreme gun control in New York) with intelligent police use of technology and the stop & frisk policy - that actually targeted bad guys with guns, but the liberals found it too offensive and didn't want the street thugs to feel targeted and abused - where did murder rates go after stop & frisk was stopped, and where are they now? There would probably be a lot less murder if the good guys could carry guns in New York.

Scook
It’s inappropriate and morally wrong to suggest “ Hitlers my buddy - or anyone else’s”

Giuliani encouraged people to “ vote by combat” . His words.

Stop using the “ban from this site threat” .
Also inappropriate .

[scook]

Willful ignorance, or the pretense of it, in lieu of EVER actually addressing the point in question is your way of being. It makes you irrelevant.

No threat, I have no authority in the matter, but you look to me to be cruising very close to the edge and your obtuse, and I think often phony, replies are eroding my support, for whatever influence my opinion might have.

[Pipe_Dream]

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