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Unread 06-29-2022, 09:11 PM
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Got a friend who is a marine mechanic for the local navy base, works on a small fleet of outboards, mostly Verados on RIB dive boats and Whaler Guardians. He was telling me they run all non ethanol in all motors and are not allowed to use any blend of it. So apparently the govt does not have to follow their own rules

Gas is not blended with ethanol until loaded into the tanker trucks. So if you order 1000 gallons of E-10,they put in 900 gallons of gas and 100 gallons of ethanol. Then the agitation of the road trip mixes it.

That s the reason the sticker on the pump says May contain up to 10%. I used to have a test kit and have found it as low as 2 to 4 percent

All EPA mileage numbers are with non ethanol

Like spare says, nothing but a govt sponsored shell game
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Unread 06-30-2022, 01:10 AM
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No argument from me. I hate the stuff.... Have said for years that it's bad news. (And it actually costs MORE to make the stuff than is does pure gas...yet now if you can find it pure gas costs more) Go figure....But like I said, you cannot get pure gas anywhere in NJ that I am aware of. So it's either use e10 or sit home and watch my boat(s) collect dust and grime. Oh the pleasures of living in a Democrat hell state....
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Unread 06-30-2022, 05:04 AM
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As far as I know you can't get it here in New York either.
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can you guys get off road fuel? I know we have a local fuel supplier. One of my customers has a 500 gallon tank at his house, they come and fill it up with non e fuel, no road tax. He has a construction business so he runs the paper work thru it. He has a 30 ft contender that he keeps the tanks full from that storage tank. IIRC, he had about $750 in the tank and pump
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There are a handful of stations in downstate New York that sell E free. Nearest one is a 45 minute drive. Conoco. Real pain in the a$$. Right now the pumps are marked 10% or less. Once they change it up I might not have a choice.
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Unread 07-03-2022, 12:19 PM
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Spare, one of the many issues that plague me is the marina. They don’t mind if I carry gas cans on board but they don’t let you fill up at the dock. We pull a couple hundred yards off to a nice big marsh area and pump it in there. The gas dolly won’t help me much.
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Unread 07-03-2022, 01:10 PM
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I understand why they wont let you fuel at the dock. Run portable tanks. 6 gallon tanks are easy to handle, run them first, strap them on the deck when they are empty to keep them out of the way, run off the main tank to get back home. You can install a fuel selector valve and switch between the main tank and carry on tanks. Every time you go down to the boat, add 5 gallons to the main tank. BTW, race car gas jugs work far better then the gas jugs with the stupid epa fillers. They even make a battery operated transfer pump for them. The guys I rent my shop from use them to refuel their jet ski rentals. I've transferred fuel from carry on tanks just using a fuel line with a primer bulb attached. Keep the quick disconnect on the line, clip on the carry on tank, get the siphon going with the primer bulb. When using plastic tanks, be careful of static electricity
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