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Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.


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I'm not going to go into the motivation for the unprecedented leak at this time.

But this is a decent overview of Alito's draft opinion, despite being posted at Politico.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...sages-00029470

I am cautiously optimistic.
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I'm not going to go into the motivation for the unprecedented leak at this time.

But this is a decent overview of Alito's draft opinion, despite being posted at Politico.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...sages-00029470

I am cautiously optimistic.
And who’s going to adopt all the low income babies born of the poor that can’t afford travel to states allowing abortion ? You pipe dream ? And these unfortunate poor babies will grow up as addition drain on the economy - likely having poor babies again themselves . You going to pay more for welfare ?
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A start would be to address the hideous adoption process. Our family’s experience is that with many multiple thousands of dollars into the process, attempting to adopt (and getting very close - one baby actually in the care of the family members and then taken back from the adoptive dad’s arms by a social,worker) both were reverted back to pretty irresponsible mothers. It was a gut wrenching, horrible experience, trying to adopt and give a good life to these two babies of color. Then thousands more into the process, miraculously, a baby was able to be adopted and he’s an absolute joy to all of our family. I think the whole thing took three or four years, took north of $65k and was an extremely emotionally abusive process. Fortunately, there were lots of donations of resources and a lot of people praying and giving active support through the process.

I’d suggest working to make that process something that normal people with normal financial resources can actually have a chance of accomplishing before thinking that killing babies (people) is an OK thing to do as a usual and customary way of dealing with the problem.

You want to throw government money (our money) at problems - that wouldn’t be a bad, or inefficient, place to put some of it.
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Actually, your argument suggests that we should just kill the domestic terrorists who are destroying property, businesses and peoples lives - dragging on our economy very significantly.
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A start would be to address the hideous adoption process. Our family’s experience is that with many multiple thousands of dollars into the process, attempting to adopt (and getting very close - one baby actually in the care of the family members and then taken back from the adoptive dad’s arms by a social,worker) both were reverted back to pretty irresponsible mothers. It was a gut wrenching, horrible experience, trying to adopt and give a good life to these two babies of color. Then thousands more into the process, miraculously, a baby was able to be adopted and he’s an absolute joy to all of our family. I think the whole thing took three or four years, took north of $65k and was an extremely emotionally abusive process. Fortunately, there were lots of donations of resources and a lot of people praying and giving active support through the process.

I’d suggest working to make that process something that normal people with normal financial resources can actually have a chance of accomplishing before thinking that killing babies (people) is an OK thing to do as a usual and customary way of dealing with the problem.
Bless you and your family for giving him a chance in life.
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And who’s going to adopt all the low income babies born of the poor that can’t afford travel to states allowing abortion ? You pipe dream ? And these unfortunate poor babies will grow up as addition drain on the economy - likely having poor babies again themselves . You going to pay more for welfare ?
"Drain on the economy?"

It appears that life is cheap to you. Sad.

But the crux of the opinion, if you would bother to read it instead of merely reacting to a headline, is that the Supreme Court should never have ruled in favor of "Roe" to begin with.

Life begins at conception according to scientific consensus. Every life is precious, even an unwanted life.

Even MSB Joe Biden understands that we're talking about "a child" here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1521520576409608193
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Thanks Pipe :)
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"Drain on the economy?"
Life begins at conception according to scientific consensus. Every life is precious, even an unwanted life.

Indeed. That "cluster of cells" are human cells, and are developing into a functioning human, not a turnip. But then again, the turnip potential could explain the mental deficiencies attendant with liberal politics.
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Michigan - 70 % of pop in favor of choice . Yet the Republicans want to impose the strictest anti abortion rules in our nation - no abortion even rape and incest .
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That's a bit of an exaggeration - it assumes that there would be no modification to the 1931 law on their books. It seems likely that some modification would be forthcoming.
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