January 6, 2021

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Matthew Perna entered an open door manned by two Capitol police officers who did not attempt to stop him. Matthew did not carry a weapon, assault a police officer, or damage any property. His family said he stayed within the rope lines and took photos that afternoon.

Matthew—by all accounts a gentle soul, a devoted son and friend, a man who loved his country—had never been in any legal trouble in his life and presumably believed he, like any American, would be treated fairly by the justice system. That's not what happened. What Matthew and his family, as well as thousands of his countrymen, quickly learned is that they would be used as human pawns in the pResident's regime’s vicious and vengeful war on terror against Trump supporters.

Ok now you’re going with excuses …..” vicious, vengeful war on trump supporters”.
That was trumps violent mob that attacked our Capitol, attacking police andmaking threats to kill our Vice President .
ANYONE not authorized also entering the Capitol during that put themselves in harms way.
You want to spin it otherwise , that’s your business but it’s spin.

[Pipe_Dream]

Matthew Perna was not violent. He attacked no one. He walked through an open door manned by two Capitol police officers who did not attempt to stop him. He took photos. When two alleged acquaintances who followed Perna on Facebook notified the FBI that he was one of the individuals on the FBI’s wanted list, he discovered he was on the list and turned himself in to his local FBI office. A week later, six FBI agents arrested him at his home, He was charged with a felony count of obstruction of an official proceeding and three trespassing misdemeanors. With the case drawing out, Perna plead guilty in a plea offer. But Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, according to Perna's attorney, planned to seek a lengthy prison sentence for Perna after he plead guilty to all four charges. “What drove him (Perna) over the edge was the government announced it would seek an eight-level enhancement [to his sentence] for threatening to cause physical injury to a person in order to obstruct the administration of justice,” said Perna's attorney. Perna, who committed no violent crime and has no criminal record would have faced 57 to 71 months in prison.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Matthew Perna was not violent. He attacked no one. He walked through an open door manned by two Capitol police officers who did not attempt to stop him. He took photos. When two alleged acquaintances who followed Perna on Facebook notified the FBI that he was one of the individuals on the FBI’s wanted list, he discovered he was on the list and turned himself in to his local FBI office. A week later, six FBI agents arrested him at his home, He was charged with a felony count of obstruction of an official proceeding and three trespassing misdemeanors. With the case drawing out, Perna plead guilty in a plea offer. But Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, according to Perna's attorney, planned to seek a lengthy prison sentence for Perna after he plead guilty to all four charges. “What drove him (Perna) over the edge was the government announced it would seek an eight-level enhancement [to his sentence] for threatening to cause physical injury to a person in order to obstruct the administration of justice,” said Perna's attorney. Perna, who committed no violent crime and has no criminal record would have faced 57 to 71 months in prison.

Spin pipe spin !
Injustice is everywhere - the man should NOT have joined the violent mob and entered the Capitol . Yes - bad things happen to good people - especially when they PUT THEMSELVES in harms way .

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Spin pipe spin !
Injustice is everywhere - the man should NOT have joined the violent mob and entered the Capitol . Yes - bad things happen to good people - especially when they PUT THEMSELVES in harms way .

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Originally Posted by bgreene

A hugely insensitive and morally wrong thing to say with people dying fighting for their lives

because of a vendetta against a former President and anyone who supported him.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

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because of a vendetta against a former President and anyone who supported him.

Pipe - you’re really stretching your conspiracy theory rubber band trying to make excuses for trump.
Ukrainians are literally fighting for their country and their lives , and here you are…..safe and secure making excuses for why X President trump of our United States ok to be calling Putin a genius for any reason. Wow

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Ukrainians are literally fighting for their country and their lives , and here you are…..safe and secure

When are you deploying?

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Pipe - you’re really stretching your conspiracy theory rubber band trying to make excuses for trump.

I am making no excuses for Trump. But you seem hell bent on making excuses for prosecutorial misconduct.

A friend writes

"Actions have consequences." But most of the time, they do not. What were this man's actions, and what were the consequences? Apparently he walked past helpful policemen, walked around, took pictures, left. These actions had consequences - detention without trial, despair, suicide. If he had been a wealthy grifter, he would have faced no consequences. If you're Joe or Hunter Biden, you can make money, big money, suborning or collaborating with governments; you might even be allowed to walk around and take pictures without being jailed. If you're of the approved class, you can quite literally burn cities, kill people, destroy whatever you want, and you will not be hunted, jailed, prosecuted. You might even be allowed to walk around and take pictures - actions which, according to some, are treasonous and require permanent detention, without bail, without hope of trial. If you are correctly affiliated, you can riot and burn, night after night, forever if need be, and your government will not hunt you down, will not imprison you, will even allow you to walk around and take pictures - all without consequences.

But yes, actions have consequences, sometimes, for some people. So choose better friends and associates, do not keep wrong or unapproved ideas, do not walk around and take pictures, avoid consequences. Above all do not protest your government, not here, not in Canada, not in Russia, not in China. There will be consequences.

[bgreene]

Excuses , and more excuses .

If you run out into traffic and get hit by a car…..it’s mostly your own fault.
Same applies to your nonsense on this topic .

[bgreene]

Jan 6 investigation committee wants the court to force release of documents between trump and lawyer that may be specific to the Jan 6 insurrection.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/polit...tee/index.html

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Jan 6 investigation committee wants the court to force release of documents between trump and lawyer that may be specific to the Jan 6 insurrection.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/polit...tee/index.html

If they get that it will forever destroy the lawyer/client privilege so entwined in our Constitutional law. The same as a spouse cannot be made to testify against their partner. Just one step closer to communism Comrade. But of course you cannot see that since you're blinded by your hate for President Trump. You're like a sheep being led to slaughter, You just trustingly follow the Judas goat (Democrats)


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