Trumps accounting firm quits

[scook]

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of “wanting” to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly “tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don’t know what”, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA’s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by scook

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of ***8220;wanting***8221; to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly ***8220;tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don***8217;t know what***8221;, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA***8217;s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

He never will. CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBCWAPONYT have scrambled his brain. But I applaud your efforts as you've brought a calm and factual approach to the forum, which he obviously can't deal with as evidenced by him attacking you.




(bgreene tries to discredit me with some drooling dream he had about the National Enquirer in 3...2...1...)

[scook]

Thanks Pipe - unfortunately, it seems you are exactly right.

I loved the Donaldo Trumpo clip.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of “wanting” to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly “tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don’t know what”, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA’s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

No Scook - you wake up ….

It was RIGHT WING TRUMP supporters who…..attacked our Capitol, police, and threatened to hang our Vice President.
It’s Republican TRUMP who FALSY CLAIMS he won the election .
It’s Republican TRUMP who FALSY CLAMIED Pence had authority to deny the election result .
It’s REPUBLICANS that are trying so hard to minimize the reality of the attack on our Capitol.
It’s REPUBLICANS such as Mitch McConnell now speaking up against the lies of Trump.

It WAS NOT Democrats, tree loving environmentalists, or any other so called Leftists that smashed into our Capitol and pose threat to undermine our democracy and destroy our system of fair elections.

So go ahead with the others posting “ mutual admiration ignorance “conspiracy theories ….

[scook]

I haven’t seen anyone here disputing that the small percentage of the huge demonstration who broke in AND were violent were extreme right wing supporters of Trump. Them saying that he “told them to do it” isn’t borne out, listening to any of his speeches or any other evidence.

A difference of opinion, even if one party is wrong, if it is believed, isn’t a LIE, it’s a difference of opinion.

It WAS far left goons who did massive damage to our country, far, far, far in excess of anything that happened at the capitol, over a long period, permissioned to this day by far left DA’s. If you think the violence at the capitol, while foolish and destructive had the remotest probability of ultimate success, which it appears you do, you are incredibly deluded.

And by the way, a little research indicates that electronic spying on the Trump administration did continue after he was president and that there was a connection to the Clinton campaign. CNN may have missed that.

You do truly need to wake up to the real threats to our democracy - being carried out under you nose.

[bgreene]

Scook writes this….
…….” If you think the violence at the capitol, while foolish and destructive had the remotest probability of ultimate success, which it appears you do, you are incredibly deluded. “

Scook - that’s not close to the point and your credibility continues to drop with each of your comments such as that.

In FACT if not for the VERY BRAVE POLICEMAN who purposely backed up having trumps mob following him AWAY from the section where our people were located, the outcome could have been much much worse .

Saying “ oh it never would have “ with over 100 of our police injured is extremely disrespectful and a vey wrong thing to write. Wow.

[scook]

If you suggest that I disrespect the line police officers, you are definitely barking up the wrong tree. I certainly don’t respect Pelosi, who’s I’m charge of the Capitol Police and who refused more officers. She almost certainly was hoping for something bad enough to use to her and the left’s political advantage, so is largely responsible for the extent of the damage, not excusing the thugs who did the damage.

It would be interesting to know how many more police officers were injured in the continuous riots sanctioned by the left wing politicians and prosecutors across the country. In your obsession with Trump, you are blind to what’s really going on that’s damaging the country and threatening our democracy.

I said earlier that I don’t think it very likely that the mob would have killed the VP, of course it’s possible, but VERY unlikely. Then there would have been murder charges to answer, as there should be.

My credibility is well intact - I write factual posts in an effort to correct your wild flights of extremism and biased OPINIONS based on partial or completely false “FACTS”. OF COURSE THE CAPITOL RIOT WAS A BAD THING, but it had absolutely ZERO chance of being an insurrection and was not the least threat to our democracy - what the left is doing as we write is a huge threat to our democracy and your ignoring and minimizing it is not patriotic in any way.

Your credibility has been near zero since you started making political posts and you’ve done nothing to redeem it.

[bgreene]

Zero CHANCE of insurrection says scook …..as if that means much.
Over 700 trump supporters charged with crimes plus attempted insurrection charges.
As you and destroyer have tried to label as the “ few “ and those that got rowdy” to try and minimize that violent historic event.

And the so called coincidence that Trump gave speech encouraging his followers to “ fight like hell” while trumps sleazy lawyer Giuliani also encouraging “ trial by combat” .
What it really was …….encouraged violence.

Meanwhile this so called “ left” that you blame for the riots that mostly occurred after George Floyd’s wrongful death ……not connected to President Obama or Bidens agendas, neither men encouraged violence from Americans against each other .

Back to it …..so Trumps accounting firm now wants no part of Trump and claims they can’t substantiate the accuracy (honesty )of records they’ve received from trump.
Gee wiz not surprised on this because trumps a lying cheating con traitor .

[bgreene]

Zero CHANCE of insurrection says scook …..as if that means much.
Over 700 trump supporters charged with crimes plus attempted insurrection charges.
As you and destroyer have tried to label as the “ few “ and those that got rowdy” to try and minimize that violent historic event.

And the so called coincidence that Trump gave speech encouraging his followers to “ fight like hell” while trumps sleazy lawyer Giuliani also encouraging “ trial by combat” .
What it really was …….encouraged violence.

Meanwhile this so called “ left” that you blame for the riots that mostly occurred after George Floyd’s wrongful death ……not connected to President Obama or Bidens agendas, neither men encouraged violence from Americans against each other .

Back to it …..so Trumps accounting firm now wants no part of Trump and claims they can’t substantiate the accuracy (honesty )of records they’ve received from trump.
Gee wiz not surprised on this because trumps a lying cheating con traitor .

[Pipe_Dream]