The siege on our Capitol

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I don't dispute the text message part of your post. That's a matter of public record, thanks Liz Cheney.

However, it was not a "domestic terrorist attack". Not by a long shot. That's a pretty far stretch, even for you.

Was it violent? yes, I'd think I'd agree that parts of it, by a small number of people, was violent. The most violent part was, of course, when that Capital Police thug shot an unarmed woman and murdered her. That was pretty violent. The rest of it, the pushing and shoving, the breaking of some furniture and some doors was pretty tame, especially when you compare it to all the riots of the summer before, where stores were looted, buildings burned and several people were killed. Why is it that you completely ignore that?

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Our FBI Director labeled the violent attack on our Capitol as “ DOMESTIC TERRORISM.”
Oh yes he did and here’s the link you pretend otherwise.

Punching holes in your BS is easy destroyer - because the FACTS and the TRUTH are pure, honest, and real.

I don’t have to compare the violent insurrection attack on our Capitol to urban violence .
The violent attack on our Capitol, on our peaceful transfer of power , on our democratic process was a specific and unique event in the history of our nation.


https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...-capitol-siege

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Our FBI Director labeled the violent attack on our Capitol as “ DOMESTIC TERRORISM.”
Oh yes he did and here’s the link you pretend otherwise.

Punching holes in your BS is easy destroyer - because the FACTS and the TRUTH are pure, honest, and real.

I don’t have to compare the violent insurrection attack on our Capitol to urban violence .
The violent attack on our Capitol, on our peaceful transfer of power , on our democratic process was a specific and unique event in the history of our nation.


https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...-capitol-siege

Oh, is this the same FBI Director that called those parents that objected to the school board "domestic terrorists" or is this a different FBI Director? Rofl... And you're quoting the LATimes as factual and unbiased? You really are desperate aren't you? You know what? YOU are a Domestic Terrorist. There, I just labeled you as one.

See? That's how a dangerously silly stupid post goes. People like you label people or events you don't like as something evil, like calling them "domestic terrorists" and you gloss over real domestic terrorism as nothing but "Urban violence". You play word games because there are really stupid people that will believe you and your fake BS, and then you try to cloak yourself in some make believe false mantle of "truth" and facts" when you know that almost everything you say is pure horse manure.

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Oh, is this the same FBI Director that called those parents that objected to the school board "domestic terrorists" or is this a different FBI Director? Rofl... And you're quoting the LATimes as factual and unbiased? You really are desperate aren't you? You know what? YOU are a Domestic Terrorist. There, I just labeled you as one.

See? That's how a dangerously silly stupid post goes. People like you label people or events you don't like as something evil, like calling them "domestic terrorists" and you gloss over real domestic terrorism as nothing but "Urban violence". You play word games because there are really stupid people that will believe you and your fake BS, and then you try to cloak yourself in some make believe false mantle of "truth" and facts" when you know that almost everything you say is pure horse manure.

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Hahahah hah destroyer calls me a “ domestic terrorist” and of course discredits our Director of FBI.
But of course you’re WRONG AGAIN - here’s the definition of domestic terrorist - which the Insurrectionist were:
Terrorism - FBI
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences

Exactly what these people were that attacked our Capitol and FBI Director 100 % correct .

[scook]

In fairness, that definition exactly fits the rioting left wing mobs for more than a year and continuing today. The result of permissioning this kind of lawlessness is the spreading of lawlessness, e.g. kids now think it’s OK to organize threats against schools on TikTok. This largely inconsequence lawlessness is a very serious threat to our democracy and very destructive to the way of life our magnificent country has achieved.

You can hold whatever opinion you have as to the severity of the capitol violence and Trump’s character, but I think not vigorously engaging this very serious, virulent threat is a huge mistake. I think anyone not working hard to vote out the far left, incompetent and flagrantly dishonest office holders who are perpetuating this foolishness is way far off a reasonable path - ignoring a huge body of facts and truth that is before us every day.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

In fairness, that definition exactly fits the rioting left wing mobs for more than a year and continuing today. The result of permissioning this kind of lawlessness is the spreading of lawlessness, e.g. kids now think it’s OK to organize threats against schools on TikTok. This largely inconsequence lawlessness is a very serious threat to our democracy and very destructive to the way of life our magnificent country has achieved.

You can hold whatever opinion you have as to the severity of the capitol violence and Trump’s character, but I think not vigorously engaging this very serious, virulent threat is a huge mistake. I think anyone not working hard to vote out the far left, incompetent and flagrantly dishonest office holders who are perpetuating this foolishness is way far off a reasonable path - ignoring a huge body of facts and truth that is before us every day.

Scook - I don’t “ hold any OPINION I want “ about the violent Insurrection attempt to stop our legally voted Presidential transfer of power from Trump to Biden .
I write about the FACTS OF WHAT TOOK PLACE- those who encouraged it, those that delayed action to stop it, those guilty of the violence, and those that try to minimize and lie what happened.

We WILL NOT dismiss the historic attempt to kill our Vice President and stop our democratic process by virtue of comparison to other violent demonstrations.

Inner city violence is another issue and problem.

[scook]

My point remains - I just don’t see you engaging what is a very serious threat to our national wellbeing.

If the FBI was doing it’s job, having plenty of notice via social media, they would have coordinated a large federal law enforcement presence at the capitol, stopped the violent members of the group from getting in and there would still have been a big demonstration.

If I were in charge of local law enforcement in my city, Portland, I would have placed a very large police presence in the path of the domestic terrorists who were attacking public and private buildings and citizens, causing millions of dollars of damage, serious injury and death and bankrupting a lot of businesses, many minority owned. I would have invited federal law enforcement to protect federal facilities and personnel, not referred to them as occupiers and thugs like our state and city officials did. I would have had all violent offenders arrested (of course, to get them prosecuted, we would have had to get rid of our far left foolish DA as well).

My opinion of the severity of the capitol violence and Trump’s connection to it is definitely less extreme than yours, but I’m very concerned about what happened. I think if you really care about the big picture of our well-being, and I think you do, you should show significantly more concern than is expressed in your posts.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

My point remains - I just don’t see you engaging what is a very serious threat to our national wellbeing.

If the FBI was doing it’s job, having plenty of notice via social media, they would have coordinated a large federal law enforcement presence at the capitol, stopped the violent members of the group from getting in and there would still have been a big demonstration.

If I were in charge of local law enforcement in my city, Portland, I would have placed a very large police presence in the path of the domestic terrorists who were attacking public and private buildings and citizens, causing millions of dollars of damage, serious injury and death and bankrupting a lot of businesses, many minority owned. I would have invited federal law enforcement to protect federal facilities and personnel, not referred to them as occupiers and thugs like our state and city officials did. I would have had all violent offenders arrested (of course, to get them prosecuted, we would have had to get rid of our far left foolish DA as well).

My opinion of the severity of the capitol violence and Trump’s connection to it is definitely less extreme than yours, but I’m very concerned about what happened. I think if you really care about the big picture of our well-being, and I think you do, you should show significantly more concern than is expressed in your posts.

1. The amount of concern I write about specific to any particular subject is mine to choose …..and yours to judge if you wish. Mostly irrelevant to me.

2. The Capitol Insurrection attempt was a historical violent event that challenged the integrity of our democratic continuum .

So post all you want about urban violence. As stated, I don’t connect the two as excuse for either .