If you could go back in time - where and when ?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

The video worked.

I’d go for a couple of hundred years. The indigenous tribes did a little taming of the environment, but I think a majority of it was pretty unspoiled.

Even in the 1940’s when Grand Coulee Dam was completed on the Columbia River, the Salmon runs were spectacular (even with over harvesting). Dad said it made him sick to watch film of the masses of Salmon roiling the water at the base of the dam, finding no way up to their spawning beds. Whole genetic lines of Salmon were extincted in one swoop.

I have the boat and all the gear, but 4 times out this year with my very experienced fishing buddy and not ONE bite. Hoping for improvement, but it’s pretty sad.

I envy you guys on the Atlantic coast - multiple species and a lot safer access to the ocean than out here on the Pacific.

Sorry to be such a downer.

We’ve seen how careful environmental protections CAN reinvigorate nature .
The North American Indians actually did make an impact of course on much smaller scale.
Once they stopped being migratory and set up permanent dwellings, farming, and harvesting game in their regions.

We know Indians have linked nature with spirits.
There’s something very unique about remaining wild lands that were NEVER obliterated and remain as have always been. In Washington State, on the edge of our only rain forest in North America - Olympic National Park there is such a place …….I had a unique somewhat spiritual experience there.
Years later while watching a nature TV show, the explorer commented of feeling a special way in a few of our remaining completely unspoiled places. My wife said to me WOW that’s like what you said back in Washington State !!!!!

[bgreene]

Perspective :

The dinosaurs had an exceptionally great run - about 100 million years of successful life on our planet, before asteroid impact. We think of the dinosaur age as somehow brief but it was a very very long period of earth time .

Humans …..we’ve been around for about 6 million years and only so called “ modern “ for a few thousand . Impact to our planet approaching catastrophic over only the past few hundred years. Massive largely uncontrolled population growth, enormous and toxic waste generation, and insatiable demand to exploit all natural resources .

So yeh, just to go back a mere 150,000 years right here in New Jersey, look around and return would be heaven to me

[scook]

The eagles around here have had an amazing recovery since the effects of DDT have diminished. They’re all over the place.

My wife and I were as the beach a couple Christmases ago and found some kind of sea bird fouled in one of those little crab traps you cast with a fishing pole. We cut it loose and had it wrapped in a coat, since it was obviously injured, made a call to the wildlife rescue folks and waited, and waited for a response. The bird was getting a little rambunctious (clearly not appreciating what we were doing for it) and finally it was obvious we needed to turn it loose. It took off hobbling (like Festus from the old Gums one show), just got to the water and an Eagle nailed it. Of course then we heard back from the wildlife lady, told her the story and she said “ oh well, merry Christmas Eagle”. Not so funny for the injured bird, but the eagle didn’t waste any of it - we found the carcass coming back and it was picked clean.

[scook]

I found the link to the Nessmuk e-book - enjoy.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3460...-h/34607-h.htm

[Destroyer]

I would go back about 2000 years or so. I would want to see and hear Jesus. Everything everyone else has said is great, nature and all, but lets not forget who it is that created it. To look at my savior, to hear him speaking. Heaven on earth.

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I would go back about 2000 years or so. I would want to see and hear Jesus. Everything everyone else has said is great, nature and all, but lets not forget who it is that created it. To look at my savior, to hear him speaking. Heaven on earth.

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Destroyer - no need to instruct us on what we need to remember etc.
This thread is just to share what you’d like to see from the past - no lessons for us needed.

Some of us may not share your religious beliefs so advising us “ what we need to remember “ about Jesus does not fit us all.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Destroyer - no need to instruct us on what we need to remember etc.
This thread is just to share what you’d like to see from the past - no lessons for us needed.

Some of us may not share your religious beliefs so advising us “ what we need to remember “ about Jesus does not fit us all.

I'm sorry, but who the heck do you think you are to question what I would like to see and hear? You came up with some bs "I'd like to see unspoiled nature" thing, and that's all fine and good, but I'm not allowed to say what I would like to see/hear? The question was if we could go back in time, where or when. This is my answer of what I would like to see and hear. I am not preaching to you or to anyone else.

I DO NOT CARE if you or anyone else does or does not share what I believe in. I believe in God, and that Jesus Christ is my savior. That is MY BELIEF. HOW DARE YOU attack me, criticize me for my religious beliefs!!!

Lay off the personal attacks Greene.

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[bgreene]

Oh boy destroyer ….. point simply to state what you’d want to see without the “ let’s not forget who made it all instructional “

Calm down

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Oh boy destroyer ….. point simply to state what you’d want to see without the “ let’s not forget who made it all instructional “

Calm down

I'll clam down when you stop with the personal insults and attacks. What makes you think you can tell me what I can or cannot say?

MY belief is that God did make us all and lets not forget that. I'm sorry if that disturbs you or makes you uncomfortable, but I have every right to say it and you HAVE NO RIGHT to attack me for it.

So yes, I'd like to go back to the time when Jesus walked this earth and see and listen to him.

You have a problem with that?

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[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I'll clam down when you stop with the personal insults and attacks. What makes you think you can tell me what I can or cannot say?

MY belief is that God did make us all and lets not forget that. I'm sorry if that disturbs you or makes you uncomfortable, but I have every right to say it and you HAVE NO RIGHT to attack me for it.

So yes, I'd like to go back to the time when Jesus walked this earth and see and listen to him.

You have a problem with that?

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No destroyer - its your right to tell us what we all need to remember about religion in accordance with your beliefs. A bit pushy but its your right.
If you feel the need on this or other threads.