Climate change

[scook]

bgreene - like I said, your response is not responsive. Whether I swallow it whole or not, the material you provide has nothing to do with my suggested reading. Bjorn Lomborg is a respected environmentalist who has some observations on the data and its interpretation by the mainstream, political, non scientists and particularly the direction they are pushing “solutions”.

He suggests, for one thing, that we move away from fossil fuel use without taxing the poor to death, which is what we’re doing right now.

Again, if you’re not interested in actually processing the issues and reading to learn things you don’t know, don’t.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

bgreene - like I said, your response is not responsive. Whether I swallow it whole or not, the material you provide has nothing to do with my suggested reading. Bjorn Lomborg is a respected environmentalist who has some observations on the data and its interpretation by the mainstream, political, non scientists and particularly the direction they are pushing “solutions”.

He suggests, for one thing, that we move away from fossil fuel use without taxing the poor to death, which is what we’re doing right now.

Again, if you’re not interested in actually processing the issues and reading to learn things you don’t know, don’t.

“ not interested in processing and learning “ …….wow judgemental.
Point of this thread is global warming has been confirmed as caused by human industry this time . Moving away from fossil fuels - yes, a good thing.

[scook]

Well, three times, you don’t respond. More like an observation than “judgment”. Prof. Lomborg has ideas of HOW to get away from fossil fuels that avoid the despicable, purposeful rampant inflation of fuel prices, so the liberal, elitists don’t absolutely brutalize the poor. I don’t know if you have ever gone home to a very cold house (my wife and I both did as kids), but the popular pursuit of reducing dependence on fossil fuel by making it obscenely expensive, when many have NO affordable, available alternative, is a callous disregard for the people the liberals SAY they represent and care about. That’s either epic stupidity, arrogance or just a huge lie - I vote for all three in varying degrees. People will certainly die prematurely as a result of the policies being pursued.
I have made an effort to have a respectful discussion of some issues, but it doesn’t look like you’re having any of that. You just repeat the same thing over and over and the possibility that some of it is true doesn’t make posting it responsive to the issues we are attempting to discuss.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

Well, three times, you don’t respond. More like an observation than “judgment”. Prof. Lomborg has ideas of HOW to get away from fossil fuels that avoid the despicable, purposeful rampant inflation of fuel prices, so the liberal, elitists don’t absolutely brutalize the poor. I don’t know if you have ever gone home to a very cold house (my wife and I both did as kids), but the popular pursuit of reducing dependence on fossil fuel by making it obscenely expensive, when many have NO affordable, available alternative, is a callous disregard for the people the liberals SAY they represent and care about. That’s either epic stupidity, arrogance or just a huge lie - I vote for all three in varying degrees. People will certainly die prematurely as a result of the policies being pursued.
I have made an effort to have a respectful discussion of some issues, but it doesn’t look like you’re having any of that. You just repeat the same thing over and over and the possibility that some of it is true doesn’t make posting it responsive to the issues we are attempting to discuss.

Ok so you’re impressed by this one persons opinion- I respect that.
Break us off from dependence on fossil fuels - yes I agree with that too .
FACT that BIG OIL and the REPUBLICAN PARTY have been too closely aligned - that’s a FACT

No problem here sir - the DEMOCRATIC PARTY pushes alternative fuels.
You believe there’s an even better way - ok too .

[steplift20]

All I have to say is greenie, there is something seriously wrong with you. With everthing that this schmuck of a Predident is doing ,I would keep my opinion to myself if I was you.your a deranged person .

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by steplift20

All I have to say is greenie, there is something seriously wrong with you. With everthing that this schmuck of a Predident is doing ,I would keep my opinion to myself if I was you.your a deranged person .

I follow the SCIENCE of global warming which has proven current warming is this time due to human industry .
NASA stated this in their report
Our military also now advised global warming is a threat to our national security.

[steplift20]

Biden is the threat to national security. Open borders,weak and frail , and a puppet to the socialist left Bidens the problem .

[Pipe_Dream]

Nancy Pelosi just went into contract to buy a $25,000,000 oceanfront mansion in Florida.

I'll believe Liberals really believe in climate change and their rhetoric about the immediate dangers...when they start acting like there is an immediate danger.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Nancy Pelosi just went into contract to buy a $25,000,000 oceanfront mansion in Florida.

I'll believe Liberals really believe in climate change and their rhetoric about the immediate dangers...when they start acting like there is an immediate danger.

WRONG AGAIN PIPE - she’s not . Why do you throw nonsense around ? To see if it sticks ?

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...or/8748197002/

[oteps]

I think it would take alot to slow climate change. Look at the products at the store and think about what we had when we were kids. Im 43 some of u older and younger. I remember metal toys that were handed down. Now everything is plastic and junk, it is amazing if it lasts a couple weeks. Then we throw it out or recycle it.
How about buying anything else? everything has to be in a huge plastic case to get your attention.
Buy a new fuel efficient car? More plastic and they use a coal biproduct in the plastic to make it non conductive. Then all the fancy machines that need to be made to make the new fancy car. Then they need to make more special tools to fix the new car. Now we need to send technicians all over to schools to learn how to work on the new cars. Open the hood of a new car and look at the plastic covers and crap not needed just to make it look good compared to a 1971 jeep.
Im not sure about the new electric vehicles yet. Batteries are not environmentally friendly. And you need to plug them into a coal fired electric plant to charge them. It seems like you are doing the right thing, no gas and no emmissions out of the tail pipe. Out of sight out of mind. I would like one compared to a gas car for 100,000 miles. I might be wrong.
I worked at a heavy truck shop for 4 years. Most of my work was fixing all the emissions crap on the new trucks that were only a couple years old. You couldnt give me a truck with emissions on it.
Everyone needs their house to have air condition and heated to 72 all year long. And they think they need a 4000 sq ft house for a family of 4.
I dont think we can slow global warming, people are too lazy and would rather have convenience. Plus the people pushing it have huge houses, private jets and huge boats. If the people pushing this want us to follow they shouldnt have climate change meetings where they all fly in jets. My son does cyber school, why cant they do it over the computer? Yeah they are made of plastic too.
It would be great to slow climate change I just dont think most people could do it. They are lazy and dont care.