Anchor bow roller install

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by ashokrags

Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok

Hello All,
Sorry for the slow responses here. As you note above I had quite an adventurous time last week ..... LOL .


Anyways, here are some of the plans and welcome any suggestions. So far i have :

• Mantus M1 anchor - 13 lbs . Link below for dimensions :
  https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-...-4e9dc02f-2e2e

• 5/8" rope 300 ft Amarine from Amazon
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• Seadog lite deck pipe for chain - 1"
  https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe

I am thinkin of getting 15ft of 5/16" chain for the anchor. And then finally the bow roller for the anchor. In addition to the generous offer from @scook there are a couple of options I am looking at on Amazon

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=A9KT70ZMMRL0U
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1JQVFS5CBYWNO
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1NQT0D8VLNNLT

There are still a couple of nagging questions I have about anchor rollers

• Is the roller the one that bears the force? Previously i routed my anchor rope through chucks and then onto the bow cleat. So that is should it be load bearing?
• Can i install it off center? Any reason not to do that.. Would I have to move the light? .. Or is that because the light would not be visible anymore because of the bow roller?
• Still am confused about the deck pipe installation. Is it as simple as cutting a hole in the bow and mounting the deck-pipe i have listed up there or is there more i need to do? Also any thoughts on why I should not install the deck pipe in the cover to the cuddy?

This is how far i am now. Got the anchor and the rope and am going to pick up the chain today.. Will try to get the bow roller installed this month sometime


Much obliged for everyone's help and comments thus far.
Cheers
Ashok

[scook]

Intuitively, the roller would bear the vertical vector force and the cleat the horizontal. If you’re not in much of a current, those forces shouldn’t be much of an issue. Out here in the Columbia River it’s a very big deal - an anchor rope fouled in the propeller, so the boat is anchored at the stern can and has sunk boats.

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by scook

Intuitively, the roller would bear the vertical vector force and the cleat the horizontal. If you’re not in much of a current, those forces shouldn’t be much of an issue. Out here in the Columbia River it’s a very big deal - an anchor rope fouled in the propeller, so the boat is anchored at the stern can and has sunk boats.

Current can be a bit of an issue in the Bay here, depending on where and when I guess.

Thanks so I guess I should plan on the roller bearing forces. so the chucks in the side won't be used anymore i guess, just the bow cleat.


Much obliged,
Cheers
Ashok

[scook]

In the river here, the Salmon and Steelhead tend to travel in very narrow seams, almost single file. We use the chucks or sometimes a short line off the chuck or bow rail stanchion to pull the anchor line off center to angle the boat and move it a little sideways, trying to position over the lane the fish are using to run upstream. Maybe not so useful in the bay???

That requires lifting the line off the roller - if you’re doing that, you’ll need to remove the loop over the top of the line on the roller device.

[pjbrownva]

Originally Posted by scook

In the river here, the Salmon and Steelhead tend to travel in very narrow seams, almost single file. We use the chucks or sometimes a short line off the chuck or bow rail stanchion to pull the anchor line off center to angle the boat and move it a little sideways, trying to position over the lane the fish are using to run upstream. Maybe not so useful in the bay???

That requires lifting the line off the roller - if you’re doing that, you’ll need to remove the loop over the top of the line on the roller device.

Great to know! I'm learning a ton! Thank you.

[SkunkBoat]

I put it next to the pivoting roller and cleat. It is big enough to pass chain.
I cut a hole into the bow anchor locker and siliconed in a piece of 4" landscape drain pipe.

The rode comes out on its own from the weight of the anchor/chain falling.
I hauled the rode onto the deck. If I was moving around I kept it on deck.
Deploying and hauling could be done standing in the open sliding hatch. Sometimes I even hauled it from way back on the main deck with the window open and laid the rode on the main deck.

When done for the day I hauled it below by hand thru the pipe down in the cabin.

That kept the cabin clear of a basket of line. 3/8" 3 strand. 1/4" chain

Before I had the deck pipe I ran it under the windshield, under the sliding hatch and into the cabin. I could actually have line there and still lock the hatch.

[pjbrownva]

Originally Posted by ashokrags

Hello All,

• Mantus M1 anchor - 13 lbs . Link below for dimensions :
  https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-...-4e9dc02f-2e2e

• 5/8" rope 300 ft Amarine from Amazon
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• Seadog lite deck pipe for chain - 1"
  https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe

I am thinkin of getting 15ft of 5/16" chain for the anchor. And then finally the bow roller for the anchor. In addition to the generous offer from @scook there are a couple of options I am looking at on Amazon

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=A9KT70ZMMRL0U
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1JQVFS5CBYWNO
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A1NQT0D8VLNNLT

There are still a couple of nagging questions I have about anchor rollers

• Is the roller the one that bears the force? Previously i routed my anchor rope through chucks and then onto the bow cleat. So that is should it be load bearing?
• Can i install it off center? Any reason not to do that.. Would I have to move the light? .. Or is that because the light would not be visible anymore because of the bow roller?
• Still am confused about the deck pipe installation. Is it as simple as cutting a hole in the bow and mounting the deck-pipe i have listed up there or is there more i need to do? Also any thoughts on why I should not install the deck pipe in the cover to the cuddy?

This is how far i am now. Got the anchor and the rope and am going to pick up the chain today.. Will try to get the bow roller installed this month sometime


Much obliged for everyone's help and comments thus far.
Cheers
Ashok

My Rocna anchor is similar to the anchor you are considering.
I think it is a solid choice, and while it may be overkill, I've anchored in some very strong rips (to fish) where the current was probably going 10 knots or so... no exageration.... so I'd rather have too much holding power than risk breaking loose.


I got 300' of 1/2" of the same rope you selected. I like it.. so far... but it is heavy when wet, and it *does* take up a lot of space.

Regarding bow rollers. I think the pivoting one is better. The pivot helps with deploying and retrieving...

Plus at least one of the non-pivoting rollers you listed is 304 stainless steel.
I've read that 312 stainless stands up to salt water better, and I *believe* that the pivoting ahcnor roller is 312 SS, but I'm not 100% certain.