"And just like that"

[SkunkBoat]

not for nothin' but you sound like a drama queen right now....

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

not for nothin' but you sound like a drama queen right now....

No offense taken Skunk. Actually, I'd rather sound like a drama queen than sound like an Ostrich, keeping my head buried in the sand, or even worst, wind up like a chicken ... not saying anything until it's head is cut off.

What I posted is fact, easily checked by even the smallest of reviews. Have you tried to get a gun permit since the shelter in place order went into effect?

(Several other states have also tried to do the same thing, including our neighbor, Pennsylvania). Their order lasted for 48 hours until they were sued and they rescinded it. NJ has two lawsuits already and right now it's tied up in courts.

The fact is our rights, as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, are being taken away from us under the guise of "protecting" us. It's the exact same ploy that dictators have used for decades (if not century's) to gain control over us. If you're happy with that, it's all well and good. As for me, I'm not happy with it and I prefer to speak up about it.

After 9/11 they passed the Patriots Act that allowed them to spy on Americans. (They are "protecting us) Tens of thousands of cameras are everywhere, and now they are trying to get them all tied together into a National data bank. (Can you say "Big Brother")? New driver licenses are coming out ( Starting October 1, 2020, you must have a REAL ID compliant driver license/ID to fly within the U.S., unless you use a U.S. passport or another federally approved form of identification). This is a National Registration program. Sounds like Nazi Germany (papers please... let me see your papers)
Hell, half the Democrat party wants to turn us into a Socialized Country, even though Socialism has NEVER worked... not even once, and has usually led to Communism or some form of a dictatorship. Since the 60's the left has been brainwashing and indoctrinating our children. It started in the colleges, (90% of College professors are either far left or avowed Communists) worked it's way into high school and is now in grade schools. I could cite you several other examples, but you get the idea. So if I sound like a Drama Queen, or Chicken Little, or whatever moniker you want to hang on me, it's all good.

I'm old, I'll probably be dead long before we completely lose all our freedoms. But tell me, what are you going to tell your children or your grandchildren, when they ask you why you kept quiet and didn't speak up as your (and their) freedoms were taken away?

[Pipe_Dream]

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

~ Benjamin Franklin



I'll just leave that here.

~ Pipe Dream

[SkunkBoat]

I don't want to get into a long dissertation on the evils of Socialism nor Fascism...in the end they are the same.

What I do know is that the first words in the Constitution are "WE the People"

The government is "WE", whether you agree with the current one entirely or not. The government IS America. Its not America without it.

Too many people are worried about THEM. They don't believe in WE the People. They don't really believe in America and all its complications and compromises.
They don't understand that everything you have is tied to everyone else.

This country will end when some armed minority of the people think the government is THEM and start using guns against their neighbors and law enforcement. Then people are forced to pick sides and you get Yugoslavia all over again. What will you do? You gonna round up "them" and make them disappear? Is that going to save America? Save your Freedom?

[oteps]

I cant believe there isn't a gov owned place they can shelter people? I have never been to California and never will.
Everytine you turn around they are taking something else away. Right now they are trying to pass a bill that I have to get a permit to buy ammo. I just got my oxy and accetalene tanks filled, no permit.
Yeah they shut down gun shops for a couple days. THey should sell bottled water like the beer distributers, they can stay open.

[phatdaddy]

Don t know about California, but i just wondering how many empty hotel, motel, condo rooms are sitting empty in Florida with 3 or 4 full rolls of toilet paper in them.

[SkunkBoat]

btw, CA "secured leases" on empty motels and other facilities.

They did not "TAKE" anything.

and btw, every State has control over the use of land in the state. You don't really own your land, you own the rights to use it in accordance with the State's authority. The state's authority comes from the people of the state..past, present and future. It has always been that way. It has to be that way.

What they can't do is quarter soldiers in your home...and even that amendment is a little squishy.