Trump or crooked hillary vote for one I will start

[smokeonthewater]

I absolutely hate trump with every fiber of my body BUT I'd rather cut out my own kidney than vote for Hillary..... She has a proven track record of supporting EVERY thing that is degrading our society and is a thief and scoundrel through and through.... heck I'd vote for Steve-o from jackass before her ....

Soooo yes Hillary IS so bad that I would vote for dip$hit Donald just in the hope of keeping her out!

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater

I absolutely hate trump with every fiber of my body BUT I'd rather cut out my own kidney than vote for Hillary..... She has a proven track record of supporting EVERY thing that is degrading our society and is a thief and scoundrel through and through.... heck I'd vote for Steve-o from jackass before her ....

Soooo yes Hillary IS so bad that I would vote for dip$hit Donald just in the hope of keeping her out!

Speaking of Trump, you know, if you look at him in total, he's really not all that bad. Yes, he shoots from the hip, but behind that persona is a very smart, very cunning businessman who, admittedly, has done some not so nice things in his past, but at the same time he also has done some very laudable things. He's employed tens of thousands of people during his career, has built some remarkable buildings, created an empire that to this day employs thousands. Much has been made of his clothing line, of the ties from his clothing line being made in China.... and I guess that's true, he's employing (at best) a hundred or so people over there. But his clothes sell here, and the sales clerk that sold his tie, or the stock clerk that put it out on display, or the cashier that rang up the sale, or the maintenance mechanic that helps keep the store functioning, and every other employee in that store, multiplied by thousands of stores across the nation that sell his merchandise, all benefit in part from the profit of the sale of those ties. So he's helping employ literally thousands of people here while helping employ maybe a hundred over in China. See my point? Not everything that is said that's bad about him really is. You just have to pick thru the negative media and political spin to find the good.

And speaking of the media, as far as they are concerned, if you wonder why or how Trump got nominated, you only have to look at the pattern from the last 3 elections. McCain, Romney and now Trump. The pattern is the same for all three. They (the media) are cherry picking the Republican nominee. They do it by first assessing who they think is the most beatable. (It's no co- incidence that of the 17 Republican candidates, only Trump was considered as the person that Clinton could beat) Once they pick that person they (the media) build up that person during the primary cycle (Just like they did for McCain, and Romney and now Trump... he was everyone's darling). Then, after the primary, after they have the person they want nominated, the one they think they can beat, they publicly tear that person apart, they shred and character assassinate that person. You hear the exact same phrases used by all the networks. (Except FOX) They are not even subtle about it. They say it over and over and over. (Saul Alinsky, in his "Rules for radicals" pointed out how this is accomplished) . Rule 12 states that "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works". Put another way, if you hear a negative something often enough, and you don't hear anyone disagreeing with it, you will begin to believe it's true. And if all the networks (save FOX) are saying the same thing, then you (the public) don't hear any disagreement and you begin to believe that everything you are hearing is true. (I know that this sounds like conspiracy theory stuff, but not every conspiracy theory is false). It is a fact. You just have to look at the pattern. The Mainstream media is firmly in the Democrats pocket and they are manipulating the agenda and the conversations to try and get their candidate to win the election.

Two different sources for the same rules:
http://www.bestofbeck.com/.../saul-a...s-12-rules-for...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals