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			if the guy was earning $90 an hour and you kept him from earning $90 an hour while he checked your boat out, then you owe him $90. I normally don't charge for quick check outs like that, but I usually get the job to repair it. If I offer some one my time to figure out whats wrong with their boat and they want me to fix it, I don't charge for that time. If they say that they are going a differnt route and ask me what they owe me, I giv them a charge based on how much time I spent. I walk a bit faster than your guy, so I probably would have charged 1 12 pack of Natty Light. If that guy was an employee of the shop, he would have had to stuck with shop policy on charges. If he was the manager or owner, then he sets his own rate. I know people that will not check soemthing on the spot for people, once word gets out, theres a line of people wanting free check outs and nothing gets done. With that being said, lift the engine to its full highest position, you may have to loosen the release valve. Tighten the relief valve, and fill the resevoir all the way while holding the trim button in the up position. If the motor starts moving up, then keep adding till fluid runs out. I use an old school oil squirter, a mustard bottle works well for adding fluid as well. If the engine doesnt try to trim up, keep filling till its full, put the cap back on and lower the engine with out opening the relief valve, if it still doesn't trim up, open the relife valve and let the engine drop a little, then close the valve again. If it will trim up or down at this point, just keep running it both ways, topping the fluid off. You may have to let it sit and settle down a bit then go back and check the fluid. If this works, you owe me 1 12 pack of Natty | 
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|   Easily worth a case, more really, and understand about doing stuff for cheap/free, word gets out and soon you're stuck doing everyone a favor. Don't do it and you're an A--hole. It's a thin line in a gray area. 
				__________________ 1985 Wellcraft V-20, Evinrude ETEC 150: SOLD 1979 Marine Trader 44, twin Ford Lehman 120s 2006 Panga 14, Tohatsu 20 | 
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			I finally had to stop taking phone calls between April and September, my voice message says to send me an email to schedule service, I still take 15-20 calls a day
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			Well I know I speak for everyone when I say I appreciate your words of advice.  You've helped a lot of people, along with other members of the site. I tried to get it going today. Did the procedure many times. still leaks down quickly and refuses to go up. Will trim up but not tilt up. Must be sucking air from somewhere. Sucks cause my favorite time to fish is nowish until november. Not sure the next step I should take?!?! 
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			I'll still buy you a box of fatty nattys if I ever make it to Charleston!
		 
				__________________ 1994 Wellcraft V21 | 
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			sounds like you still have air in it, trim it all the way up, you may have to help it a bit. Let it sit over night and top off the fluid again. Make sure themanual release is tight and try it again
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			Just did that.  Think I got a little more in there but no change in behavior.  I notice sometimes after trimming up I hear air when I unscrew the fill screw.  Then I'm able to add a minute amount of fluid.  Other times I hear nothing and fluid comes out when I unscrew the fill screw.  Yesterday before I worked on it it would ever so slowly try to move up when tilted in the up position.  Ever since then it wont even do that.   Looking at the parts diagram looks like there's supposed to be an o-ring on the fill screw - I see none on this one??  I put some thread tape on it to see if it helped but cant see that it did.
		 
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			Hey spare if I run by you can you check out my whole engine  and of course don't charge me  that said  you sound like a great mechanic ,could I be your best friend please   My motor is old and I need all the help I can get
		 
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			Did you check ebay for the part I had to get a used trim assembly and the only place was ebay  paid 400 dollars ans paid about 150 to have it installed  worked ok for about six months then had to get a new trim motor, that cost me 800  so I'm into this for about 1500 I wanted to get a new unit from the start but they don't make them any more   Thanks mercury   Oh and now they don't make the motor anymore from the company that I bought it from so if I have to replace that I hVe to buy from ebay  yep the warranty expired   1 year     My advice to you is if you can  get a new assembly  I know it's a lot of money but it will be cheaper in the long run
		 
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			Yes, i bought the one from eBay.  A new trim assembly with Yamaha pricing is a scoach under 3 grand.  My motor might bring $4500 - 5k on a good day.  Boats.net prices a new trim unit at $2500 and change.  I'm into this one for around $830.  I can do this three times for what a new unit costs.......if I don't sell it and hang a 4 stroke on the back.    
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