Longest Round Trip Tow

[phatdaddy]

capt pete, i have one of those lasar temp guns. every stop i go back and shoot the hubs checking temp.

also use it to know when the grease is ready when we fry fish down there

[bradford]

Y'all are changing my mind, lol. I say go for it.

The only thing that concerns me really is the single axle. Is the trailer set up right with the proper tongue weight etc., makes a huge difference when towing, especially that far. Too much tongue weight is bad, and not enough is a whole lot worse. Got good heavy duty tires and springs? Loosing one on a single is a whole lot worse than on a tandem. Could you justify trading up to a tandem? Then again a tandem has more weight, more rolling resistance, twice the maintainence. I would rather have a good heavy duty, properly set up, single axle than a cheap flimsy tandem. Just thinking off the top of my head.

If you like to read check out some Randy Wayne White novels from the library, especially the Doc Ford series, all take place in that area. John D. MacDonald and James W. Hall novels are excellent as well.

[RWilson2526]

Great information guys....I must say I am surprised there were more Yay's than Nays. Even "Captain Cautious" (AKA Destroyer) was saying go for it

I've gone back and forth at least three times....Ferm...great info on the craigslist ad. I am going to call them today. Those are much better boats and much better prices than what I was seeing at local marina's down there. I'm sure I'll spend more in gas than what I am estimating but below is a spreadsheet I put together to calculate differential cost....havent towed enough with the new truck to get a good number but ran it at 10,11,12, 13 mpg.

$/gal miles mpg w/ mpg w/o Gal w/ $ w/ Gal w/o $ w/o $ diff
$2.62 2674 10 18 267.40 $700.59 148.56 $389.22 $311.37
$2.62 2674 11 18 243.09 $636.90 148.56 $389.22 $247.68
$2.62 2674 12 18 222.83 $583.82 148.56 $389.22 $194.61
$2.62 2674 13 18 205.69 $538.91 148.56 $389.22 $149.70

With the money I'll spend in gas and what I'll probably spend making sure the trailer is completely perfect I dont think it will come down too much to a money thing....I do like the comment about putting money into my own rig if I have to spend it. Would need to be done anyway sooner or later.

I am also spending 3-4 days on the east cost visiting my family so could get some boating in on that side too which would be fun.

Will keep you guys updated.

[smokeonthewater]

Also keep in mind the possibility of problems w a strange boat..

You drive 1000 miles and pick up someone else's boat... The motor blows, they double book a weekend, for whatever reason they bail...

Do they try to blame you for the engine prob?.... Do they refund your money right away? Do they have another boat? Is all of their safety gear up to USCG standards?
Is your vacation ruined because you counted on a stranger and a strange boat? Do you WISH you had brought your own boat?????


On the mpg.... Possibly if you slow down 5 mph you will make up for towing the boat.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Having spent most of yesterday running around gasparilla island, another thing to keep in mind is the actual boating on the water. Are you prepared to lose a prop or lower unit? There is alot of boating to be done down that way, but there are also ALOT of water hazards down there as well. There is also a ferry that does non stop trips all day long from ELDRIDS marina to GASPARILLA ISLAND. Also on another note, it is just plain STOOPID that they have a ferry to bring your car over to the north side of the island, but no roads to connect it to the southside of the island because they decided to make the middle of the island part of Don Pedro Island State Park. Also if you do come down here to boat, I STRONGLY reccomend you have a hand held GPS or something with accurate charts in it. This area can go from deep water of 10-12 feet in the channels, to nothing in less than 3 feet. The ICW isn't marked the best in all areas anymore, and it is sandbars on either side of the channel through much of it.

If you do bring your boat with you, I would strongly suggest stepping up to a tandem axle trailer. Yes the tolls through the socialist north will eat you alive, but the safety factor is nice in having 2 tires on each side in case of a blowout. And when you come down, let us know, I may be able to break away and take the wife and kids to the inlaws in Port Charlotte and bring the skiff with me. Still trying to learn how and where to fish in the area as it is COMPLETELY different than what I am used to up to the north.

[phatdaddy]

don't know if that area is as bad as the keys (remember, that chain of islands was founded by people who took advantage of stranded travlers in peril), but trailer storage can be costly as well.

we rented a house in key colony(marathon) and had to pay a $50 a week storage fee to the key colony police force to store a trailer in their yard, other option was a $25 a day fine for keeepin it at the rental house.


apparently their attitude has not changed in 300 years

[THEFERMANATOR]

Check with ELDRED'S MARINA. They are located right at the bridge to BOCA GRANDE, and do long term storage. The ferry boat to GASPARILLA ISLAND runs from that marina over. They have an older ramp(but still good) along with a large parking lot and several boat slips to park at.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

If you do bring your boat with you, I would strongly suggest stepping up to a tandem axle trailer. Yes the tolls through the socialist north will eat you alive, but the safety factor is nice in having 2 tires on each side in case of a blowout.

Actually, if he has EasyPass there is NO charge for a trailer, single or tandem. If he goes thru the normal toll lanes you're right, they charge by the axle and he'll pay thru the nose. But the Easypass lanes just charge by the vehicle. Just read the info on their site. I've had Easypass for many years and I love the ease and the reduced fees. Well worth getting.

Originally Posted by Phatdaddy

we rented a house in key colony(marathon) and had to pay a $50 a week storage fee to the key colony police force to store a trailer in their yard, other option was a $25 a day fine for keeping it at the rental house.

You have got to be kidding me. They fine you for keeping a trailer in your driveway????? It's a legally registered vehicle according to law and should not be subject to any fines. And the people down there let the police get away with that crap? That's nothing less than extortion.

Originally Posted by RWilson2526

Even "Captain Cautious" (AKA Destroyer) was saying go for it

There's a reason I reached my 71st birthday Rob. I've never said don't have fun. I just say be careful you don't kill yourself while doing it.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Actually, if he has EasyPass there is NO charge for a trailer, single or tandem. If he goes thru the normal toll lanes you're right, they charge by the axle and he'll pay thru the nose. But the Easypass lanes just charge by the vehicle. Just read the info on their site. I've had Easypass for many years and I love the ease and the reduced fees. Well worth getting.



You have got to be kidding me. They fine you for keeping a trailer in your driveway????? It's a legally registered vehicle according to law and should not be subject to any fines. And the people down there let the police get away with that crap? That's nothing less than extortion.



There's a reason I reached my 71st birthday Rob. I've never said don't have fun. I just say be careful you don't kill yourself while doing it.

We don't have easypass down here, and it isn't retroactive with the sunpass we have, so no point in me getting one or even really knowing about one with as little as I go up nawth(you guys can keep that area. My wife has family up there, so we only go OCCASIONALLY to visit). As to the fine, many areas down here are VERY congested, and if they allowed you to park your trailer, the whole area would back up. Or it could have been a deed restricted community like my inlaws live in where everybody is from up nawth where they like being told what they can and can't do. They already know they will have a notice in the mail next week about my boat being parked in front of the house Wednesday and Thursday night, and Friday(only allowed to park your boat here Friday night to Sunday afternoon). Most of the people who live here are from Jersey and New York, and love it like this.