2014 it Happened

[THEFERMANATOR]

Thanks Willy, way to make me look forward to tax time(I dread it enough each year because of capitol gains taxes). Now I know I will get reamed even harder on the few investments I have.

[RidgeRunner]

I will refrain, I will refrain, I will refrain! Altogether now.. I will refr

[bradford]

Got a nice letter from Blue cross about my health insurance going up again.

They included a spreadsheet detailing costs before and after the new healthcare went into effect. Let me just say I'm one of those paying out the *** for all those that won't.

I never go to the doctor, never get sick thankfully, have a $10,000 deductible just to keep it somewhat "Affordable".

This whole chirade and those supporting it and responsible for it can blow me.

[spareparts]

I'll be the first to tell you that insurance is cheaper than my daughters hospital bills, so I'm not complaining about the cost, but I will tell you thanks to Obama care, insurance on me and my two daughters went up $250 per month to almost $1000 per month, if my wife was on our policy, it would go up an additional $700 per month. Thats with a $2500 deductible on my kids and a $5000 deductible on me.This is the largest single expense my family endures each month. The way I look at it, if you voted for Obama, you owe me, i take cash, check and paypal

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by spareparts

I'll be the first to tell you that insurance is cheaper than my daughters hospital bills, so I'm not complaining about the cost, but I will tell you thanks to Obama care, insurance on me and my two daughters went up $250 per month to almost $1000 per month, if my wife was on our policy, it would go up an additional $700 per month. Thats with a $2500 deductible on my kids and a $5000 deductible on me.This is the largest single expense my family endures each month. The way I look at it, if you voted for Obama, you owe me, i take cash, check and paypal

Same here. Insurance is cheaper than hospital bills if you have to use it, but insurance is what is most peoples single biggest expense. Me and my son cost right at $500 a month for a basic policy. I wish the ocare plan addressed the actual issues, but yet again it completely missed it. And now I feel like yet again, were being punished for trying to look out for ourselves and planning for the what if.

[RWilson2526]

Sorry Willy, I'm calling BS on your facts again.

http://www.atr.org/full-list-obamacare-tax-hikes-a6996

[ssiredfish]

Originally Posted by spareparts

I'll be the first to tell you that insurance is cheaper than my daughters hospital bills, so I'm not complaining about the cost, but I will tell you thanks to Obama care, insurance on me and my two daughters went up $250 per month to almost $1000 per month, if my wife was on our policy, it would go up an additional $700 per month. Thats with a $2500 deductible on my kids and a $5000 deductible on me.This is the largest single expense my family endures each month. The way I look at it, if you voted for Obama, you owe me, i take cash, check and paypal

Here, here!!!

I am at a whoopin $1500/mth without my newborn son on our policy. That rate is locked until next year when Ive been told it may or may not go up another 20%. I could very well be paying close to 2k by the end of 2015.......Thats sooo F'n retarded I can't even explain it and YES it will be MORE THAN MY MORTAGE AT THAT POINT!!!!!!!! Worse part is we have no Diabetes, Disease or any other prominant illness in my family and we are all under 35.

[Destroyer]

Welcome back Spoggy.... Much better post. Backed up with references to your claim, etc. Bravo

As to the subject matter at hand... well, I'm not a tax expert, and at 99,000+ pages long for the tax code, I truly doubt that anyone is. It's designed to be confusing deliberately. Anyway, I'm not going to comment on Willy's stats or Spoggy's rebuttal... I WILL however simply say that as it stands right now the taxes are just too damned high. Don't forget that you're only talking about "some" of the federal and state taxes... when you add in sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes and all the hidden taxes in everything from your phone to the drink in the local Bistro you're already paying far more than you used to... and they are constantly going up as each crooked politician needs more money to pay out as bribes to the people that are keeping him or her in office. I am really starting to think that the people of France, during their revolution, had the correct idea for their crooked politicians.

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Welcome back Spoggy.... Much better post. Backed up with references to your claim, etc. Bravo

As to the subject matter at hand... well, I'm not a tax expert, and at 99,000+ pages long for the tax code, I truly doubt that anyone is. It's designed to be confusing deliberately. Anyway, I'm not going to comment on Willy's stats or Spoggy's rebuttal... I WILL however simply say that as it stands right now the taxes are just too damned high. Don't forget that you're only talking about "some" of the federal and state taxes... when you add in sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes and all the hidden taxes in everything from your phone to the drink in the local Bistro you're already paying far more than you used to... and they are constantly going up as each crooked politician needs more money to pay out to as bribes to the people that are keeping him or her in office. I am really starting to think that the people of France, during their revolution, had the correct idea for their crooked politicians.

good post, just add up how much you pay in all taxes on everything you do. It's very high.

[spoggy]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Welcome back Spoggy.... Much better post. Backed up with references to your claim, etc. Bravo

As to the subject matter at hand... well, I'm not a tax expert, and at 99,000+ pages long for the tax code, I truly doubt that anyone is. It's designed to be confusing deliberately. Anyway, I'm not going to comment on Willy's stats or Spoggy's rebuttal... I WILL however simply say that as it stands right now the taxes are just too damned high. Don't forget that you're only talking about "some" of the federal and state taxes... when you add in sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes and all the hidden taxes in everything from your phone to the drink in the local Bistro you're already paying far more than you used to... and they are constantly going up as each crooked politician needs more money to pay out to as bribes to the people that are keeping him or her in office. I am really starting to think that the people of France, during their revolution, had the correct idea for their crooked politicians.

See! You can teach an old dog new tricks. Will not debate that we pay too much in taxes, I am in agreement.