Of interest

[wellcraftv20step]

Paul, I am kinda chuckleing at the whole foreign product thing.A while ago I was complaining to my dad that I was just leaving to drive my wife down to the local foreign car dealer to pick out her new Nissan crossover,and complaining about the whole foreign car thing to him. Iwas all set to get her the GMC Terrain . Dad who admittedly is a bunch smarter than me said "son with all the investing you do you probably own part off that company and many more like it, so put your money where your mouth is or shut up". Not directed at anyone ,its just reminded me is all.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by wellcraftv20step

Paul, I am kinda chuckling at the whole foreign product thing. A while ago I was complaining to my dad that I was just leaving to drive my wife down to the local foreign car dealer to pick out her new Nissan crossover,and complaining about the whole foreign car thing to him. I was all set to get her the GMC Terrain . Dad who admittedly is a bunch smarter than me said "son with all the investing you do you probably own part off that company and many more like it, so put your money where your mouth is or shut up". Not directed at anyone ,its just reminded me is all.

John, the saying is "out of the mouths of babes".... but sometimes we have to listen to what comes out of the mouths of seniors also. Your dad hit the nail right on the head. It really is a global economy now. That's not to say that America is not still the foundation of exceptionalism,... it is. But only a blind person can not see the way the world is changing. Do I like it? Hell no. But it's like a hurricane heading for you. You don't like that also, but there's really nothing to do about it except to acknowledge the threat, make preparations for it, try to get out of it's way and then deal with the aftermath as best as possible. Nightly red sky's brother.

[Coz]

http://www.allmandboats.com/Cabin_Bo...bin/index.html

This looks very similar...and they are in Miami.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Coz

http://www.allmandboats.com/Cabin_Bo...bin/index.html

This looks very similar...and they are in Miami.

Coz now THAT is interesting. I'd bet that either they (China) are copying that design, OR they are making it and Allmand is just selling it for them....Did you notice the price difference BTW? Almost $10,000 higher for the Allmand. (I used to have a 25' John Allmand... wonder if this is the same company?) Great find....

[Coz]

I think that it is the same manufacturer for both. I think that Allmand is just reselling them. If you look at two of the pictures on Allmand's website, in the background there is a boat with the same blue stripes found on the ebay version. But that is just a hunch...

[spareparts]

that Allmand place is a scam, I had a friend that went down there to look at a Seacraft 20 splashed hull they had, they wanted to charge him to take a tour. Come to find out, the place has a bunch of molds laying around, they'll build you whatever you want if you put the money up front. they just hire a bunch of cubans to build it for you, not much of a warranty or quality control from what I hear.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by spareparts

that Allmand place is a scam, I had a friend that went down there to look at a Seacraft 20 splashed hull they had, they wanted to charge him to take a tour. Come to find out, the place has a bunch of molds laying around, they'll build you whatever you want if you put the money up front. they just hire a bunch of cubans to build it for you, not much of a warranty or quality control from what I hear.

That makes sense, because I had hear that John Allmand went out of business years ago. Sounds like a bunch of scammers are just trying to live off the name of what used to be a very good boat.