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I'm suprised its only $1500, most ecu's retail for at least $2000
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I'm surprised its only $1500, most ecu's retail for at least $2000
Which of course is total bu!!sh!t. They (the manufacturers) know they have us by the short hairs, so they jack the price up, then the jobbers do the same and finally the retailers gotta get their share also... My point is that you can buy ECU's for 8 cylinder cars for as low as $150 on eBay, and even then the seller is making a profit. I know it's all about supply and demand, but sometimes the exorbitant prices charged for marine parts just gets under my skin and I gotta vent. And remember that the auto ECU's do as much or more, are completely sealed in epoxy and are just as waterproof. Fact is I'd be VERY surprised if the marine ECU actually cost more than $75 to build in the factory, including parts and labor.

OK, that's the end of my rant ... like I said, sometimes it just gets under my skin...

Sorry for your loss Lumber, and Spare, you know that I'm not venting at you in any way shape or form...
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Agree with Destroyer.

How many hours on your ETEC Lumber?
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Damn, tried raising hell with anybody?

Are you on ETEC Owners Group Forum? Someone there might have some words of advice.

I'd ask for you old ECU back, I'll bet some tech geek with a soldiering iron could fix it for cheap.
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the problem with buying a used ecu from e-bay or anywere else is alot of times they cant be reprogramed to match the motor. we ran into that alot when i worked for BMW & MERCEDES. once the ecu was programed for a pacific vin# you could not take it out and put into another car and reprogram it to that vin# hence forceing the customer to go to the dealer. they are high for what they are. i would call customer service and ask for some GOODWILL ASSISTANCE!! was it dealer installed? if so they should be able to contact the service rep and get you some kind of help!!!
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Yes it was dealer installed an hes looking into it for me which is great but I'm prepared to bite the bullet if I have too..
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the problem with buying a used ecu from e-bay or anywhere else is a lot of times they cant be reprogrammed to match the motor. we ran into that a lot when i worked for BMW & MERCEDES. once the ecu was programmed for a pacific vin# you could not take it out and put into another car and reprogram it to that vin# hence forcing the customer to go to the dealer. they are high for what they are. i would call customer service and ask for some GOODWILL ASSISTANCE!! was it dealer installed? if so they should be able to contact the service rep and get you some kind of help!!!
Yep, was not ranting about things like that. A used ECU off of eBay is rarely a good investment, simply for the reason you pointed out. But the price I quoted was valid. My point was the outrageous prices charged for marine equipment in general. They (the makers of such) would have us believe that they have to charge more because of extra steps necessary for marine use, and, to a point, they are correct. But if a part costs $100 to make normally, and $150 to make for marine use, it should NOT give them the right or the ability to charge $2000 for it! But since they know that without that part your $15,000 engine will not run they feel free to do such things, and from where I sit, it's just plain wrong.

(And as far as EEPROM's go, anyone with the right equipment and knowledge should be able to reprogram one. But dealer only software is closely guarded, just so that they can charge whatever they want).
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Damn, tried raising hell with anybody?

Are you on ETEC Owners Group Forum? Someone there might have some words of advice.

I'd ask for you old ECU back, I'll bet some tech geek with a soldiering iron could fix it for cheap.
My best friend is a Yamaha dealer. He often has cases like this. With enough input from himself and the boat owner, 9 times out of 10 Yamaha steps up and takes care of the issue with at least a 50% discount on parts but sometimes when they see the hours etc, they will eat 100%.

Def worth trying !
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