V20 Vs. Bertram 20

[bradford]

Bertram Barons came in 20, 24, and 28 foot lengths.

Conch 27s have 22.5 degrees.
http://www.randrboatworks.com/conch27.php

That's a great deal on that Hiliner, Bigshrimpin'!

Love classic style V hulls!

[THEFERMANATOR]

I believe teh CONCH was built off of a FORMULA 233 copy with some SEACRAFT transom design with multi stage V bottom. It was a unique hull design from down in the keys. I haven't seen but one or two myself, but I know they were very popular guide boats in south Florida.

And the BERTRAM 20 BARROn is a DEEP V sucker.

Heres one running at speed. Look at how much of the V is out of the water.

[bigshrimpin]

[QUOTE=THEFERMANATOR;213395]I believe teh CONCH was built off of a FORMULA 233 copy with some SEACRAFT transom design with multi stage V bottom. It was a unique hull design from down in the keys. I haven't seen but one or two myself, but I know they were very popular guide boats in south Florida.



Ferm - my grandma's neighbor John Harding owned edey and duff in Mattapoisett. Conch 27 is an original hunt design . . . Has zero influence from formula or seacraft. They sold the conch molds to the guys in fl before closing the doors. 20 Bertram is a beast. You might be right about the little baron. I have seen a 28 baron in San Rafael, ca and dead rise is ridiculous.

[spareparts]

didn't the 27 Seacraft has some ridiculous dead rise? I think I saw one near Jacksonville, NC. I was riding down the road and my "seacraft" radar went off, I could see the trademark running strakes, but the boat was huge and the dead rise was excessive.

[bigshrimpin]

Spares - The 25 seacraft seafari has a 25.5 degree deadrise it's crazy too.

http://www.classicseacraft.com/Seafari25.htm

Navatek LTD in Hawaii spent 5 years and some ungodly amount of money tweaking the hull design on the 25 seafari to develop their 9meter SAM Unmanned Surface Vessel.

http://www.navatekltd.com/sam.html



This is a Utube video of one of the test boats loaded down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3Y1A_RNCM


I got one of these sitting behind my house now . . . : ) Waiting for a motor ( and my kidney stones to quit )

[dan4836]

Does anyone know how the Wellcraft V20 compares to the Seacraft 20?

I am assuming that the Seacraft will ride better but I don't know if a 20' boat can get much smoother than my V20 with tabs?

I cruise around 21 knots and with a little tabs I never pounded. I only owned my V20 for one year and had some nice 15 to 20 northeast winds while fishing out of Shark River inlet and the boat handled perfect.

Also, at rest, my V20 is very stable. Some of these great sea boats that have very deep V's have their own cons such as: a lot of power needed to push and terrible at drift.

I owned a 29' Phoenix and it was great trolling and running. Chucking for tuna or even fishing for stripers in the Delaware Bay was tough because the boat would rock something fierce.

[bigshrimpin]

I've owned both a v20 steplift and various 20 seacrafts (two seacraft seafari's, one seacraft 20MA, and one 18 seacraft) in the last 10 years. They are both excellent boats. v20 is a bit larger and has more room. I now run a 23 seacraft which is a great boat too.



V20 is a great stable platform for fishing. In a head sea the ride is really good. Quartering will knock your fillings out. Following sea can be downright dangerous when the bow digs in. Overall it's a great boat. I fished my v20 40 miles offshore more than a few times. I stuffed the bow once on stellwagen bank and knocked the windshield into the cockpit. I would have never sold the boat except that I moved cross country.

20 seacraft is like a magic carpet in small chop. It's really a bay boat (so is every 20ft boat except maybe the bertram). Quartering . . . you can get the boat to pound if you don't use tabs to roll the hull a bit. The boat tracks nice straight in following seas. Anything over 2ft seas will put you airborne if you are trying to go faster than 22mph. This boat can get you in trouble, b/c it'll handle some pretty big water, but it's not the best decision to be out in there in this little boat. You could push the 20 seacraft very well with a 90hp - 115hp . . . if you get one DO NOT put a heavy motor on the back. 400lbs is about the max you want to do with a 25" transom. with a 20" transom I would stick with an inline 6 tower of power (275lb).