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I think the reason they killed her is because they didn't know it wasn't a suicide bomber with a trunk full of explosives. They may have not even known it was a woman?
Very true, and I'm sure they'll use that as an excuse for their actions... But there was absolutely no indication she was a suicide bomber, or a terrorist of any kind, so why would they think that? And they knew it was a woman because they were surrounding her car there at the gates before she escaped... At least a dozen of them had a good look at her. You mean to tell me they don't have radios?

Again, as I said in the beginning, I'm not making any excuses for her behavior. I just think the cops way over reacted on this one. She didn't have to die.
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I fall somewhere in between. It is a shame that an apparently mentally ill woman was killed. However what kind of indication should a cop look for that someone is meaning to do harm? Running a car up to a barricade at a White House security checkpoint is a pretty good indication to me.....they all dont have to be yelling alla akbar as they do themselves in.

And as far as being a woman, if it was a black man it would be open season and more justified?

The original cops that had her stopped showed good restraint. One was looking right into her window at her and could have ended right there. unfortunately when she ran she took her own life.

Sad, but thats the way it is.
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I'm no fan of just shooting away at people, but in this case there are too many unknown factors. And considering the shooting at the Navy Yard, I don't think they had any other choice. Sad but true
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I agree with a lot of the sentiments here, messed up situation.

I wonder how the story would be spun if it were a middle age white male wearing camo and driving a 20 year old pick up truck?
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Very sad. I didn't have any details when I started this thread. Tragic.
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just because she was trying to run them down isn't a good enough excuse to shoo........ oh wait. yes it is. now her family is complaining that they shouldn't have shot her with a baby in the car. those dam police put her baby in the car.
they should go shoot the rest of her idiot family now.
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just because she was trying to run them down isn't a good enough excuse to shoo........ oh wait. yes it is. now her family is complaining that they shouldn't have shot her with a baby in the car. those dam police put her baby in the car.
they should go shoot the rest of her idiot family now.
See Charlie, Although you may not realize it, that's exactly the point I was trying to make. First off, she wasn't trying to run the police down. She ran her car into the gate. The police that were surrounding her car were injured as she panicked and tried to escape. Other than her car, she offered and showed no signs of any type of weapon or threat to the police. Once they had chased her down and taken out her car with the pit maneuver all they had to do was arrest her. Instead they poured shot after shot into her car. It's a wonder the baby wasn't killed or injured also, but as luck would have it, it wasn't. To me, her family is acting like any other grief stricken family would. I'm sure that if it was your wife is similar circumstances you would be reacting in much the same manner as her family is. I think any of us here would.

There are several people here that have said that considering the shooting at the Naval Yard a week earlier it's understandable why the police shot at her, and I tend to agree with them, but I've also always thought that each incident was supposed to be judged on it's own merits by the police. Apparently, they didn't do that in this case.

Again, please understand, as I've been saying all along, I'm NOT making any excuses for the dead woman. What she did was wrong, dangerous and she injured 2 police officers. (And obviously signed her own death warrant in the process, cause you can't injure policemen and be allowed to live). I just think that the police used excessive force when they subdued her. I really think they could have done a better job. Hopefully, this incident will serve as some type of training program for police so they can better hone their situational awareness skills.
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