This spells it out

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Ok, let me try, one last time, to spell it out for everyone. We all know that there are not just Spanish illegals in America. There is also a failr large contingent of Slovaks..(Russian, Polish, Chez, etc). A fairly large contingent of Canadians, Koreans, Japanese, etc.

The post was designed and worded in such a way as to inflame anger towards illegals living in this Country. But not just any illegals. Now, ask yourself... when you read the post, did you feel anger towards Canadians? No?, ok then, how about Koreans? No?, ok then, how about Slovaks? Still no? Hmmm... did you just feel anger towards Spanish illegals? Yes? Ok then.. now we're making progress. That singling out of one particular race is what makes the post racist. It is designed and worded, in such a way as to make you angry strictly and solely towards Spanish illegals. That's racism 101 folks. If you don't agree, well, like the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. I can point out to you why it's racist, but if you don't want to accept it, well, again, I can't force you. I agree with almost everything in the original post, I just do not like it being racial towards one particular ethnicity, no matter if they have the largest or smallest percentage of illegals in the Country.

I guess I'm an exception as teh jose reference did not cause me to single out just spanish illegals. One could argue that using billy bob could be racist, or somebody with a name with no vowels. It's all in the perception of teh person reading it, and I didn't find it racist in any way.

[Blue_Runner]

By the same logic, saying "Joe" legal.....implies all Americans obey the law?

[phatdaddy]

the only one i was upset about was jose,

in your other analogy, were you the water or the horse?

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by phatdaddy

the only one i was upset about was jose,

in your other analogy, were you the water or the horse?

Neither, I was the one LEADING the horse. (although I'm thinking that it's more like a donkey than a horse)

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner

By the same logic, saying "Joe" legal.....implies all Americans obey the law?

Actually, you're sort of correct. In my second post on this subject I said

Joe is our normal American hero worker/father

Jose is our normal Spanish illegal worker/father

The implication was that American Joe was a good guy and Spanish Jose wasn't.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

I guess I'm an exception as teh jose reference did not cause me to single out just spanish illegals. One could argue that using billy bob could be racist, or somebody with a name with no vowels. It's all in the perception of teh person reading it, and I didn't find it racist in any way.

Ferm, if, when you read the original post, you didn't think that Jose was Spanish then that's great, cause that's the way it should be.. the post should be against ALL illegal trash that are destroying our Country, not just the Spanish ones.

[willy]

I thought he was Spanish, still feel the same, it is mostly about South Americans stealing into our country. That is the major illegal alien problem we have.
we don't have a major problem with Slovicks stealing across our border, nor Asians.

[CaptJ]

Wow, haven't checked on this but it appears to have gone viral and has taken a direction I never would have anticipated. When I forwarded this, from an email I received, I did not even contemplate racism. I saw it as eye opening, be it exaggerated, dollars earned comparing illegal and legal people.

For the record, I am far from racist and have many friends of many ethnicities. All four of my grandparents came off of a boat and through Ellis Island. Obtaining their citizenship the long hard way.

I do not feel that we should have illegals from any country living in the USA. Earning an untaxed living, medical care and much more. If you want to come here do it legally, like my ancestors and two of my in-laws.

Those were my feelings. We all read and interpret things differently, it all stems from our personal life experiences.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by CaptJ

Wow, haven't checked on this but it appears to have gone viral and has taken a direction I never would have anticipated. When I forwarded this, from an email I received, I did not even contemplate racism. I saw it as eye opening, be it exaggerated, dollars earned comparing illegal and legal people.

For the record, I am far from racist and have many friends of many ethnicities. All four of my grandparents came off of a boat and through Ellis Island. Obtaining their citizenship the long hard way.

I do not feel that we should have illegals from any country living in the USA. Earning an untaxed living, medical care and much more. If you want to come here do it legally, like my ancestors and two of my in-laws.

Those were my feelings. We all read and interpret things differently, it all stems from our personal life experiences.

I never figured you for a racist CaptJ. I sincerely hope that neither you or anyone else took it that way. I felt the post was racist, since it targeted just one race of people, instead of all illegals, however we all know that these types of posts are usually copy/paste items from other sources.

And besides, as long as they are done without rancor, personally I feel that intense discussions like this one are actually a good thing. They provide an opportunity for people to express how they feel about a subject. If people don't talk about things, how will others know and be able to agree or disagree with them?

[CaptJ]

No worries on this end Destroyer. Like you, I truly enjoy reading and discussing these issues.