thanks alot ford!!!!!

[UBHSTRY]

Its issues like that, I just dont understand why people are still buying the ford/chrysler gm junk.

And I used to be so pro-american cars..............then I had to work on them for a living....pffffft

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by UBHSTRY

Its issues like that, I just dont understand why people are still buying the ford/chrysler gm junk.

And I used to be so pro-american cars..............then I had to work on them for a living....pffffft

Your entitled to your opinion, but I wouldn't call them all junk. Yes FORD has the mod motor spark plug problems up till about mid year 04, but the imports have just as many or more problems. I cringe everytime somebody brings me an import to work on. Finding parts can be just as hard as doing the repairs. I'll stick with the AMERICAN "junk" myself, and let others deal with the imports.

[spareparts]

most of that Chrysler junk, is imported junk! Fords better engines are made by Yamaha and i don't think there is a better engine on the market right now than GM's LS series

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by spareparts

most of that Chrysler junk, is imported junk! Fords better engines are made by Yamaha and i don't think there is a better engine on the market right now than GM's LS series

Yep, the GM LS engines are a TRUE MARVEL of engineering. How many V8's out there can be pushed up to over 700HP on stock bottem ends, and still live for over 100K miles. Or how many gas engines out there are well known for going in excess of 500,000 miles with only minimal work(water pumps, plugs, wires, and alternators). there are to many to count of these LS engines in fleet service running 300K miles with never a wrench put on the engine except maintence or a water pump. And they sill get as good or better milage than most of tehse fancy over head camshaft engines with less wear parts to replace.

[UBHSTRY]

Its mostly chrysler that I really dont understand why people keep buying, I do think its the biggest junk on the road today.

I tend to stick with volvo and toyota/lexus anymore. Easy to work on, and parts are plenty and cheap.

Ford is not so bad, and neither is GM except the are goverment now. Dont tell me you hate obama, and then buy a new GM.

Chrysler though, is just junk. Period.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by UBHSTRY

Its mostly chrysler that I really dont understand why people keep buying, I do think its the biggest junk on the road today.

I tend to stick with volvo and toyota/lexus anymore. Easy to work on, and parts are plenty and cheap.

Ford is not so bad, and neither is GM except the are goverment now. Dont tell me you hate obama, and then buy a new GM.

Chrysler though, is just junk. Period.

I just did some work on a TOYOTA, and it took me almost 3 weeks just to get the heater hoses for the dam thing so I could do the water pump, belts and hoses. EVERY single import I work on blows up in my face trying to find parts for it. Yes GM got a bailout, but in reality FORD got a BIGGER one(it just wasn't called a bailout). CHRYSLER has had some trouble and I haven't worked on that was newer than about an 07 so I don't have any recent experience with them. I just can't stand the mentality of epople who feel imports are so much better when in reality they are not. Go around to repair shops and ask what they dread seeing the most, I bet it's an import.

[spareparts]

A good friend of mine is the service manager at a big Honda dealership, he laughs about the fact that people think Honda's are so much better than other cars, he explained it to me once. He told me Honda takes care of issues right now, and quietly, they don't wait for it to make head lines or become lawsuits, he told me there are all kinds of "quite' settlements that Honda has, but people don't hear about them. They are instructed to take care of the people who ask, but don't go around adverting it. If there is an issue, they fix it, and do it right.The second biggest thing about Honda's owners is most of them aren't car people, they look at their car as transportation, if the owners manual says it need this at this many miles, they do it, no questions. My friend has worked at several other car manufacture dealerships before working at a Honda one, he told me compared to the dealerships, you would be surprised how many people take their Honda to the dealer for an oil change, or a brake job. They let the dealership take car of it all, because they don't want problems. If the owners manual says you need to do this at this many miles, they take it to the dealer and have it done, if they find something else on the car that needs to be taken care of, they have it done without question. Don't take me wrong, Honda dose make a nice car(they make a horrible outboard though), but give a lot of credit to the fact that most modern vehicles, if maintained properly, will give you miles of service

[UBHSTRY]

Ooooooo, the ls series engines. They are top of the mark. Have one in the Tahoe and a few in my f bodies.

[aussie]

i find this all hard to beleive so if a dealer breaks a spark plug on your car and its still under waranty do you have to pay extra ----have they changed the desighn--i would of thought ford would of done some testing on these plugs before they used them on there engines----has anyone made a spark plug to fix the issue---sounds crazy from a place like USA you would think it would of been in the courts and fixxed fast

[smokeonthewater]

if it's under warranty it's free.... it's AFTER the warranty that we have to pay