thanks alot ford!!!!!

[spareparts]

all ready got them on, btw the fitting o-ring kit is $9, the whole fitting was $12. I went ahead and put the fittings on, figured I had them in hand, and it wasn't too hard

[smokeonthewater]

Well heck that's not as bad as I figured it'd be.

[aussie]

well i dont quite understand how a spark plug can break ----only alot of force can break it so if there tight why keep pushing till they break ---a bit of spray back and forth motion and some patence should get them out ---i see it as a spark plug and a aluminum head which is always a problem the only spark plugs i ever have problems with is from people cross threading them ----why is this desighn different from other engines

[spareparts]

if you look at that picture, you'll see that teh threads are at teh top of the plug, there's about a half inch missing off the bottom, the plug goes down thru the head in an area that traps debris, the area below the threads get gummed up with carbon, if they had threaded the plug all the way, and made it a little thicker around the porcelain, there would be no issue, but they cheapened out, making the plug thin and not threaded all the way down

heres a little more info about it
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/120

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_n...-calls-routine

[aussie]

Originally Posted by spareparts

if you look at that picture, you'll see that teh threads are at teh top of the plug, there's about a half inch missing off the bottom, the plug goes down thru the head in an area that traps debris, the area below the threads get gummed up with carbon, if they had threaded the plug all the way, and made it a little thicker around the porcelain, there would be no issue, but they cheapened out, making the plug thin and not threaded all the way down

heres a little more info about it
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/120

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_n...-calls-routine

just had a look never seen anything like them on aussie cars now i understand

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by aussie

well i dont quite understand how a spark plug can break ----only alot of force can break it so if there tight why keep pushing till they break ---a bit of spray back and forth motion and some patence should get them out ---i see it as a spark plug and a aluminum head which is always a problem the only spark plugs i ever have problems with is from people cross threading them ----why is this desighn different from other engines

They are 3 piece spark plugs soldere together. It's a piss poor design at best, and it is VERY common to break one or two doing them. FORD gets about $400 to fix each one, and it is such a common issue that the price is listed out front on the board with the price of a tune-up.

[aussie]

i have never come across them here may google it to see what you guys are talking about

[UBHSTRY]

Its issues like that, I just dont understand why people are still buying the ford/chrysler gm junk.

And I used to be so pro-american cars..............then I had to work on them for a living....pffffft

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by UBHSTRY

Its issues like that, I just dont understand why people are still buying the ford/chrysler gm junk.

And I used to be so pro-american cars..............then I had to work on them for a living....pffffft

Your entitled to your opinion, but I wouldn't call them all junk. Yes FORD has the mod motor spark plug problems up till about mid year 04, but the imports have just as many or more problems. I cringe everytime somebody brings me an import to work on. Finding parts can be just as hard as doing the repairs. I'll stick with the AMERICAN "junk" myself, and let others deal with the imports.

[spareparts]

most of that Chrysler junk, is imported junk! Fords better engines are made by Yamaha and i don't think there is a better engine on the market right now than GM's LS series