ARs...Help Me Understand

[tsubaki]

reel, ask your wife about the shoes she owns. Place that same perspective on firearms or anything else. Personal preference, it's an illness.
I for one don't like semiauto's but do own them and use them. My problem is I primarily use a firearm for hunting and target purposes. Picking on the long guns, I prefer a single shot.
For my purposes, a magazine longer than what a 5 round would hold is too aggravating in an AR type setup. But i do have several 40 rounders, 30's and 20's.
Using women's shoes mentality, I got 12" pumps and look good in them, aggravating as they are, the 4" just don't do it for me.
And two deer rifles ain't enough!

[UBHSTRY]

Trained on them, went to war with one, and shot thousands of rounds thru them. I like 'em. Its a nice weapon. Only natural I would want one on the *outside*.

[reelapeelin]

Thanks for the honesty, Guys...in short we own them because we WANT to own them...and yer right smoke...beyond wanting them there shouldn't be any further explanation required...I've got things I want, just cuz I want 'em. Pretty simple really. I just wanted to see if there was something more to it that I was missing.

[Destroyer]

I don't own one. Never saw the need for one. I have 10 long guns (mostly 12 ga shotguns), but I have a .22 Marlin semi-auto that can hold 18 rounds, and another Marlin lever action chambered in .35 Remington for use if I ever need to "reach out and touch something". But just because I don't own an AR doesn't mean that if I want one I shouldn't be able to buy one. I simply don't want one. I'd hate for someone to be able to tell me that I can't have it. Really, it's no more dangerous then my black powder muzzle loader. Both can do what they are designed to do. And for that matter, so can my hunting knife or my filleting knife or my sons alum baseball bat. The problem isn't the gun, or the type of the gun. The problem is the person holding the gun. And I don't know a single person alive that can tell me when an otherwise normal person is suddenly going to "snap" and reach for the gun that he or she has safely owned for the last 20 years.

[Kracker Jack]

The issue here is that the AR to guns is like pitbull to dogs. Everybody talks **** about a pirbull but its just simply a dog that's choosen to to be mean because of its owner . AR are choosen because they have a huge market for high Capacity clips and cool accesories. Now see im a hound dog kind of guy, i own 20 long guns and 2 pistols all bought for a sole purpose. I have no need for a AR but if I want to buy one and customize it I should be able to because I'm a responsible law abidding gun owner.

[Curapa]

I have an arsenal of weapons,... handguns, long guns, shotguns and assault rifles. I do not and have not hunted about 12 years and all of my weapons now are for my entertainment purposes only. So why do I own assault rifles with 30 rnd mags? Because they kick ***!

When something bad happens like the school shooting everyone is quick to find blame in something. Whether its guns, lack of religion or whatever. The fact is, people can do some pretty messed up things no matter if there no access to weapons, they are raised loving Jesus or...

People think back to when they were kids and recall how they did not have to worry about things like this but the truth is senseless tragedy has always been a mainstay in human culture. The problem is the media now glorifies these idiots making them "immortal".

In 1927 the Bath School dissaster occured, 38 people died (mostly children) and 50+ people were injured. This was done with rigged explosives throughout the school way before any of us were born. If there is a will there is a way and people have always been crazy.

[roffey]

Up here in Canada the Government introduced gun control. For the life of me I can't understand how gun control will ever help prevent someone or persons doing something as evil as taking the life of an innocent. If a bad sole is going to do something bad does anyone truly think using a legal or illegal gun is going to enter in to their mind set***8230;

[willy]

When the second amendment was written it was written for one purpose and one purpose only. To guarantee the "People" would never be held hostage by an overbearing government or tyrannical ruler. Period.
That is why it is the second amendment and not the 6th or 7th.
It stood in importance to the Free People second only to the right of free speech and the right to assemble.
It guaranteed all the other rights enumerated in the Constitution. It was correctly assumed that someday the government would attempt to control the People as all governments and the people who are part of them always have done through history. And being the brilliant and practical men they were they also specifically stated that it was the right of the People to stop any such usurpation of the People's God given rights.
In it's day, the flintlock musket was the assault weapon of choice. Carried by all the militaries in the world, quick to reload, devastating fire power. Able to mount a fearsome and deadly bayonet.
In King Georges era civilians were not allowed to own such military weapons as they were solely for the Rulers troops.
Well times have certainly changed, the weapons of the military are no longer single shot flintlocks. And neither should the weapons owned by the People, in fact up until the control of the media by the Progressive/Socialist Agenda types, like our current President, Pelosi, Reid, Schummer etc. the People were always trusted with the same weapons with some exceptions as our military. Just not full auto assault weapons and explosive type munitions.
In fact there is a Civilian Marksmanship unit of the federal government in place even now that provides semi auto weapons to civilians for the purpose of maintaining a strong civilian cadre of well trained and well armed people.
We are watching in very quick steps the erosion of the Constitution by an unchecked out of balance centralized government.
Any government for example that can tell you you must buy a product and seize your property and put you in jail if you dont comply is so far out of the Constitution that anyone who cannot see that does not have a clue about being an American and what rights and responsibilities that brings forth.
Any government that can vote itself the power to seize an American Citizen and hold him indefinitely under the guise of national security or to kill an American Citizen for the same purpose, determined by only those in power at the time is capable of anything.
And there is literally only one thing that stands in the way of this government.
Only one thing that stands for the defense of the Liberties against such a government.
That is Free Men, armed with weapons suitable for doing so.
That is the sole purpose of the Second Amendment. It has nothing to do what so ever with hunting, target shooting, or simply home defense.
It is about power, and once you can disarm, the people there is nothing that can stand between you an absolute power.
If you need something to say to someone who cannot understand why you would want to have a semi auto rifle, just simply say "I am a Free Man, an American Citizen, and it is my duty to keep it so for myself, my children, my fellow Americans".

[willy]

And just another thought, personally on this horrific shooting in CT. Had I been there, I would have shot this son of a biiatch dead, in his tracks. Because I am a armed American Citizen and I would have done what I had to do to stop such a crazed lunatic.
That being said, we no longer have many armed American Citizens around in the north east especially. We are an area of the country with a population of sheeple who elect rulers to control everything in our lives. And to give us free sh!t. Taken from others who earned it. Myself and family excluded.
Now this crazed scumbag killed both of his parents, then went to the school and shot little children down.
WTF
Are there any thinking men and women who believe someone so possessed by evil would be concerned at all about what the law says about possession of a handgun?
Does anyone, anyone, believe a law passed to control the People would have any effect whatsoever on whether this scum of the earth would destroy countless lives any way possible?
So, then what is the motive of those who would use such a tragedy.
There is only one true motive, a deceitful, lying seizure of liberty, for the sole purpose of control.

Initially, using a terrible incident for their political control, those in power in the Australian Government forced registration of all firearms, under threat of imprisonment, then once that was accomplished went door to door kicking them in when needed and seized the People's weapons.
Now, as in England, the crime rate is through the roof. The only ones with weapons to defend themselves are the police and the criminals.
The citizens are the sheeple in the middle and dieing every day.
In Florida, massive criminal activity brought about the "Shall Issue Law"
hundreds of thousands of Floridians are licensed to carry a concealed weapon. What happened?
Crime rate dropped, 40% in two years.
Who did the scum start targeting? Tourist's, Why? because they were the only ones the scum was sure was not armed.
Anyone who tells you the government is just looking out for the "folks" or the "children" when they seize upon a horrific tragedy to push their Agenda is outright stupid or just meant to be under the control of someone anyhow and there is nothing you can do for them.
The best you can do is try to inform them, and hope they have somewhere inside of themselves the ability to stand for reason, common sense, and Liberty.
JMHO

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by roffey

Up here in Canada the Government introduced gun control. For the life of me I can't understand how gun control will ever help prevent someone or persons doing something as evil as taking the life of an innocent. If a bad sole is going to do something bad does anyone truly think using a legal or illegal gun is going to enter in to their mind set***8230;

"Gun Control" is nothing more than "Citizen Control". It's a thinly veiled way for the government to control it's citizens. Nothing more. Period!! Take away a persons ability to defend themselves and they must rely on the government to do it for them. And they can NEVER overthrow their government again... they have lost their freedom.