A National Disgrace

[reelapeelin]

Yeah...let's replace one POS w/another POS...that solve all our problems...

[spareparts]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Yeah...let's replace one POS w/another POS...that solve all our problems...

that was the general consensus from the last election, got a better idea?

[yodaddy]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Yeah...let's replace one POS w/another POS...that solve all our problems...

The Dems and Pubbies are flip sides of the same coin, but I don't think Romney hates the US. Can't say the same for Obama.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Yeah...let's replace one POS w/another POS...that solve all our problems...

So what you're saying is that we keep the present POS, knowing full well his horrible record so far? Why would you want to do that? The economy is a wreck, people are out of jobs, gas has doubled since he took office, an additional 10 MILLION people are on food stamps, median income for the average family is $4000 LESS than when he took office. Health insurance has increased over $2000 per person and in 2013 with Obamacare we're about to get hit with the single largest tax increase in history and you want to keep this piece of garbage?

Obama is a known quantity....we KNOW that he's been a terrible president (some would argue the worse in history). He IS a POS.

Romney is an unknown quantity....yes, he might wind up being a POS, but we don't know that yet. However, he also might wind up being the best president our Country has ever had. That's in the future and my crystal ball is broken. I can't see it yet.

Look, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never enjoyed self-inflicted pain. I know that if I vote for Obama I'll get 4 more years of pain. I'll get a horrible government, rising taxes and a move towards the failing European socialism model for our Country. If, however, I vote for Romney I know that he's a Capitalist and that he embraces the Capitalism model that our Country was founded on. The model that has made our Country great. I believe in American Exceptionalism. I believe that the reason our Country is so great is because we are a Capitalism driven society.

My vote is going to Romney.

[Destroyer]

And to get back on topic, try this on for a conspiracy theory. I think this whole thing was an elaborate plan. I think something shady was going on, (gun running for the "Arab Spring" rebels?) I think the Ambassidor was a part of it, and I think that he was set up to be executed to shut him up.

Think about it. When the attack began he was moved to a "safe" area of the embassy/compound. The terrorists knew exactly where he was, they brought RPG's to breach that area, and he was (by some accounts) the first one to die. Over 30 other people made it out safely.

And I think the POTUS either sanctioned it or directed it.

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

So what you're saying is that we keep the present POS, knowing full well his horrible record so far? Why would you want to do that? The economy is a wreck, people are out of jobs, gas has doubled since he took office, an additional 10 MILLION people are on food stamps, median income for the average family is $4000 LESS than when he took office. Health insurance has increased over $2000 per person and in 2013 with Obamacare we're about to get hit with the single largest tax increase in history and you want to keep this piece of garbage?

Obama is a known quantity....we KNOW that he's been a terrible president (some would argue the worse in history). He IS a POS.

Romney is an unknown quantity....yes, he might wind up being a POS, but we don't know that yet. However, he also might wind up being the best president our Country has ever had. That's in the future and my crystal ball is broken. I can't see it yet.

Look, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never enjoyed self-inflicted pain. I know that if I vote for Obama I'll get 4 more years of pain. I'll get a horrible government, rising taxes and a move towards the failing European socialism model for our Country. If, however, I vote for Romney I know that he's a Capitalist and that he embraces the Capitalism model that our Country was founded on. The model that has made our Country great. I believe in American Exceptionalism. I believe that the reason our Country is so great is because we are a Capitalism driven society.

My vote is going to Romney.

Y'all just kill me...you say you don't like self inflicted pain, but you keep pounding yer head on the same tree of partisan politics...YoDaddy's ZACKLEE correct about these two being two sides of the same coin...heads=BOUGHT and tails=SOLD...Admittedly it's far too late to do anything about this election...we're SCREWED either way, because both of these candidates are OWNED and CONTROLLED by money even larger than Romney's...w/his health care requiring us to buy from insurance companies, it's clear Obama is owned by the insurance industry...the banks and wall st own Romney, so we're just pickin' which position we like our sex from...right or left...
I say it's time we say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...and start demanding of our government that they clean their act up and get money outta our government...I AM A CAPITALIST...I BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM...CLEAR?...but socialism ain't the threat...the threat is GREEDY CAPITALISM (note the difference?) owning our government w/the eventual intent of OWNING US. We need to start contacting every representative in government and demanding they stand up and denounce the Money-Go-Round that has our government completely in their control...you think your VOTE means anything against all the money that flows through the halls oh Congress...the huge money interests like petroleum, insurance, pharmaceutical, agriculture, military industrial and on and on have your government in their pocket...and the Republican Party and the democratic Party are the front men for the whole thing...you say you believe in conspiracies? take a look at the BIG PICTURE...all they are showing you is window dressing...and you and the liberals dukin' it out over details makes their hearts SOAR like an eagle cuz it distracts you from what's really goin' on...we ain't gonna VOTE our way outta this mess...it's gonna take more effort than that.

[willy]

In the mean time, with a known left wing loon in office, with the extreme danger his lying arse represents for the American People with four more years in office and the serious possibility of appointing more left wing loons like Sotomeyer to the Supreme Court and seizing more power to the Executive Branch which he has been doing non stop since he got into office what do you suggest my friend?
Yes in general much of what you say is true in your rant. Many things are highly exaggerated and are often the reasoning people use to not get involved or to not vote at all.
We are in danger as a nation, no reasonable man can step back, look at the "big picture" and determine that Obama represents anything close to what America is supposed to be. What are government under him has become is the exact opposite of what Free People deserve and our Constitution demands.
So this weekend my wife and I are going to be manning phone banks for Romney here in NJ. We have never done anything like that before. I have been an independent my whole life, I payed attention, I voted, but that was it.
When the democratic party turned socialist progressive they became an enemy of America in my opinion. And until GOOD democrats finally step up and reclaim their party from the so called Progressive's that the Clintons and Obama's and Reids and Pelosi's represent then they will continue to be an enemy of the People. They need to be defeated.
So you are right, politics is mostly based on money. Money and sex is what most of life is about across the board.
So here is the question then, unless you are going to lead a revolution in the next eleven days and seize the Capital I suggest you decide whether you want four more years of tyranny and statism from a known Statist or do you wish to leave those two beautiful daughters of yours a world where they have at least as much chance to be free and prosperous as your parents left it for you.
If you want the best for all of us, then your only alternative is to vote for Romney and say a prayer that he will turn our economy around, reduce the size of this federal Orwellian government and bring some spending sanity back to Washington.
Just my humble opinion Reverend!

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

In the mean time, with a known left wing loon in office, with the extreme danger his lying arseSo Obama's a LIAR...wow...a lying politician...stop the presses let's stir up some tar & feathers and teach this single individual politician he cannot tell a lie to the American public and get away w/it...certainly Mr Romney would NEVER TELL US A LIE represents for the American People with four more years in office and the serious possibility of appointing more left wing loons like Sotomeyer to the Supreme CourtWhat was that Evangelical's name Crazy Bush tried to appoint to the Supreme Court?...Thank GOD so many people jumped up and down in protest she had to be withdrawnand seizing more power to the Executive Branch which he has been doing non stop since he got into office what do you suggest my friend?And your friend Bush did not seize more power w/the Patriot Act than any other bill this century?
Yes in general much of what you say is true in your rant.And how shall I refer to your many long winded monologs... Many things are highly exaggerated and are often the reasoning people use to not get involved or to not vote at all.You'll find me doing NEITHER of these generalizations
We are in danger as a nation, no reasonable man can step back, look at the "big picture" and determine that Obama represents anything close to what America is supposed to be. What are government under him has become is the exact opposite of what Free People deserve and our Constitution demands.Free people deserve to live under a government FREE of corruption...we point at all the third world countries and accuse corruption when lobbying is the third largest business in this country yet you want to roll over and ignore it because you believe one guy represents a bigger threat than the entire PURCHASE of every single elected official in the federal government...REALLY?
So this weekend my wife and I are going to be manning phone banks for Romney here in NJ. We have never done anything like that before. I have been an independent my whole life, I payed attention, I voted, but that was it.SINCERE CONGRATULATONS...involvement is needed sorely...I truly applaud that
When the democratic party turned socialist progressive they became an enemy of America in my opinion. And until GOOD democrats finally step up and reclaim their party from the so called Progressive's that the Clintons and Obama's and Reids and Pelosi's represent then they will continue to be an enemy of the People. They need to be defeated.
So you are right, politics is mostly based on money. Money and sex is what most of life is about across the board.They are both BOUGHT...remember when you found out there was no Santa Claus...it's like that...Reps and Dems...BOUGHT...and their buyers are calling the shots; NOT YOU...now tell me one is better than the other.
So here is the question then, unless you are going to lead a revolution in the next eleven days and seize the Capital I suggest you decide whether you want four more years of tyranny and statism from a known Statist or do you wish to leave those two beautiful daughters of yours a world where they have at least as much chance to be free and prosperous as your parents left it for you.It's not going to get any better regardless of who is elected...if you don't believe me, lets have this exact conversation in 2016 and see where we are. Til then you may think you do, but you don't know.
If you want the best for all of us, then your only alternative is to vote for Romney and say a prayer that he will turn our economy around, reduce the size of this federal Orwellian government and bring some spending sanity back to Washington.Spending sanity exited Washington long before Obama arrived...don't take this as me defending him...I'm tryin' to convince your brainwashed arse THEY ARE ALL TO BLAME...it ain't just one guy brought all this mess to our doorstep
Just my humble opinion Reverend!And that's more than opinion...THAT'S THE FACT, JACK!...

Dayum that was fun...

[spareparts]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Dayum that was fun...

so whats your answer for this election?

[BRIELLY]

Reelapeelin's got it right-they all work for the same goups-big oil, wall street etc and not for us. Vote for who you want but at the end of the day don't expect anything to change. The only way is to purge every last one of them from the oval office and congress and start fresh. Elephants and Asses screwing the masses! In other news my boat is happily sitting on land hoping the flood waters don't rise and float it off its blocks. Stay safe folks!