Synthetic two-cycle oil

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

When I can find the synth on sale I'll buy it though.

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

Every once in awhile wally world has the pennsoil full synthetic on sale for less than the blended stuff to get it off the shelves and new inventory in.

Exactly.

The usual Pennsol that I see wally world having on sale is a blended synthetic btw.. not the pure synthetic. But it's a great oil and I agree with Pete that when it's on sale it's a great bang for the buck. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil-M...1-Gal/16401577

[RidgeRunner]

Merc Premium Plus blend at $20/gal. reg price from a Merc dealer. Yamalube, v. -the act of having your sphincter lubed just prior to checkout at your local dealer. Ouch $38/gal. That would have me rethinking that stuff too capt. Pete.
I do know that Merc. Premium Plus and DFI oil mix without a hitch. Had to do it to get home once, everything worked out.

[captpete13]

In my towboat I run optimax oil exclusively. But I don't have to pay for it. I double checked the price of Yamalube at my marina. List price is $34. But even with my discount it can't beat the Penzoil. Plus with the Yamalube I have to use ring free or I will foul plugs over time. I was told by others that had the same problem that also switched to Penzoil and they never fouled a plug again. I figure with my old motor it's worth a shot.

[macojoe]

I have been using wally world oil for years!! Even now with a 2004 Yamaha HDPI, never a issue! If you are under warranty use what they say, but all bets off after warranty is gone!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by macojoe

I have been using wally world oil for years!! Even now with a 2004 Yamaha HDPI, never a issue! If you are under warranty use what they say, but all bets off after warranty is gone!

I would NOT use wally world oil in a HPDI unless you want to have a costly engine repair. HPDI engines have a MUCH different oil requirement, and improper oil is what lead to the majority of early FICHT failures as well as MANY optimax engine and compressor failures.

[LakeMiV20]

New member here but a long time powersports junkie; snowmobiles, 4wheeler's, boats, etc. I have run Amsoil exclusively in all my motors for years with great success. Specifically in my pre mix 2-strokes, I run Amsoil Saber or Saber Outboard and mix it 100:1. My '86 225 VRO, (minus the VRO, hence the premix) runs smooth and fast with almost no stink and no smoke and I have over 300 hours since the last ring job. At $36 a gallon it is the same price mixed 100:1 as the petroleum based everyday TCW-3 oils mixed 50:1, and it is a far superior oil, in my experiences. Just another option for synthetics...

[Blue_Runner]

I use Pennzoil but not the sythetic stuff. It is the one called XLF. About $20 /gal. I am running a 150hp Yamaha 2 stroke oil injection with around 500 - 600 hours.

[bksah2]

LAKEMI Iam confused are you saying that you are running 100to1 full throlled with no damaged to your outboard

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by bksah2

LAKEMI Iam confused are you saying that you are running 100to1 full throlled with no damaged to your outboard

He's not running a conventional 2 stroke oil though, so don't mix 100:1 on regular 2 stroke oil. AMSOIL makes there saber oil that they say you can run a t100:1 in 50:1 engines without damage, but many have blown there engines running it this way and is why I never tried it.

[LakeMiV20]

Originally Posted by bksah2

LAKEMI Iam confused are you saying that you are running 100to1 full throlled with no damaged to your outboard

No need to be confused, I am indeed running Amsoil Saber Outboard premix at 100:1 and have had no problems. I also only run pure gas at 90 octane, and do not put any ethanol blend in any of my motors. Here is how good Amsoil is in my experience; I ran my 2003 Ski-Doo snowmobile, 700cc mototor, about 135HP, clean out of oil and was running about 80MPH across a hayfield in northern MI, turning about 7800rpm on the tach. (The out of oil part is a much longer however embarrassing story). The motor seized at 80MPH as I was thrown into the handlebars and came to a dead stop; the motor locked up tight. I had Amsoil Interceptor 2-stroke oil in the motor. After about 10 mins the motor came lose and I drug the sled home, tail between my legs. At home tearing down the motor, I all had to replace was the mag side piston rings and hone that cylinder. NO scuff on the cylinder wall or piston, and the PTO cylinder was just fine. Amsoil as a lubricant is just that good, and is arguably the best synthetic on the market, not to mention they have been doing it the longest. They also have a tremendous engineering department that welcomes challenges to the quality of their product in addition to claims of failures and burn downs. I think the claim that that has been many burn downs using Saber outboard at 100:1 is false. Lots of folks run it up here.