V20 Site Problems

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by spareparts

slow here as well, I'd be glad to contribute and sponsor to the cause, would it be a one time upgrade fee for the server, or would it be monthly usage fee charged by the server? If it were a one time charge, I'm sure we could get enough volunteers to contribute, but if its a monthly access fee, I could see where it would be good in the beginning, then the contributions would drift off slowly, causing the whole thing going in the red. I've seen a couple of sites find their demise that way. Would any changes to the format help with the speed. I hate to be the one that suggest it, but would eliminating the gallery help with the speed?
Go figure that Reel would be having no issues up in BFE with his old school equipment, he probably doesn't even have to peddle fast on the generator/exercise bike to keep the lights on

My niece has her own company that does internet advertising type jobs for other companies.. Basically she designs websites so that when you do a google search their company comes up on the first page. Pretty tricky stuff actually. But one of the things she has to do is arrainge advertising on the sites to get the better spots. No promises, but I'll speak to her over the weekend and see what she can come up with.

As to the gallery issue, if it's not being used it doesn't contribute to the bandwidth slowdown issue. Basically it just is data lying dorment on the hard drive. There are no issues with it unless it's being accessed. So no worries there.

There are 3 (hardware) things that determine speed.
1) The server itself. Obviously, the faster the computer the quicker the data can be accessed and disseminated out to the users.
2) The wiring. And by that I mean anything between the computer and the ISP's server. That includes the modem, router, switches, hubs, and any wires themselves.
3) The available bandwidth. The ISP only provides a certain amount of space (bandwidth) for data to travel over for a given fee. Basically, the more you pay, the greater the amount of data they will allow to travel over their wires at the same time.

So, all that being taken into account, the only things that we can control is the server and the equipment leading out of the house. Once it hits the pole it's out of our hands.

Unfortunately, I believe that Spare is right on the money. A monthly usage fee will only result in a slow death to the site. I, like him, have personally seen it happen 4 times to sites I was involved with. So a contribution to help upgrade the server and the various other equipment is going to be the only realistic route we can go. Like everyone else, I'm more than willing, (eager in fact) to contribute some coins to help with an upgrade.

And, like Reel, I have no real issues with this site from my home. Most times it's fast and my wait time to make a post is less than 5 seconds from the time I press the enter key.... But as soon as I go to work and try to access this site from there it's like I've stepped into molasses. Everything slows down to a crawl and a few times I've actually timed out waiting for the site to accept a post.

The only thing that really changes is the anti-spam, anti-virus programs and the firewalls that my company uses on thier servers. I cannot help but wonder if that's a part of the issue. Some kind of incompatability between their server and this servers' software/firewalls?

MJ, what kind of CPU and memory is the server using? Would an upgrade help? I'd be more than happy to help pay for upgrades if they are necessary or advisable.

[macojoe]

Yes spare please talk with her and see what she might be able to come up!
Destroyer you are right about the gallery and stuff, but we don't have any control of the server, we buy space there and thats it. We have a huge amount of space and all, when valiant fights with them we get a bit faster for a short time then back to the same old stuff.

This is a monthly site we pay for, so no upgrade will help. Thank you all for wanting to cheap in, but as said a monthly fee is not a good thing for all. this is a good thread cause maybe we will find a sponsor or advertiser something to help any way??
this site has been running for almost nothing all these years! One cause BS started out with free software and a free server, then went to paying for server a little, then i took the site and bought the V Bulletin software and upgraded that, and change servers a few times. It was good till we started getting to be a little big, then all the spy bots started to join and bog the site down, so valiant put blocks on there country's that were doing it, then I had him block all new members from just joining to stop the spammers, now i approve each new member after looking up there IP to see if they have anything against them, and even if they have one thing they get denied.

Thank God Valiant and I have been friends for over 31 years, and he learned this stuff!! He is are tec guy for FREE!! The site cost us about $300 a year to run! I am willing to go a little more but i have not work in a year now, just sent in my disability paper work, so things going to be a bit tight for a bit.
But I am open to anything to make it better, even got a email from a guy who buys websites with a offer to buy this one, but I looked at a few he has and did not like them so never looked into it, as i like are little corner of space just the way it is!

[macojoe]

Also I looked into the Google stuff as Therm suggested, i filed out there app and here is the email i got back

Thank you for your interest in Google AdSense. Unfortunately, after
reviewing your application, we're unable to accept you into AdSense at
this time.

We did not approve your application for the reasons listed below.

Issues:
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Insufficient content

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Further detail:

Insufficient content: To be considered for AdSense, your site must contain
enough text content for our specialists to review and for our crawlers to
identify relevant ads to show on your pages. We recommend including more
complete sentences and paragraphs on your site. We require websites to be
fully launched and functioning, allowing users to navigate throughout your
site with a menu, sitemap, or appropriate links. Once the majority of your
site is complete and functional, we'll be happy to reconsider your
application

[spareparts]

they obviously don't have a clue what they are talking about, to think they are passing up the premier boating site on the web because we don't have enough complete paragraphs. Sounds like you got the flunkie skeleton staff from the holiday(same reason the weather forecast hasn't been right this weekend). I got on thing to say to them

[randlemanboater]

Are you saying we got turned down because of wind talking?


Valiant must have talked to them again because the site seems to be running good today...at least for me.

[willy]

I say the h@ll with any of them advertizing groups, if I see one more green lizard pop up I might shoot it.

Why don't we sponsor our own site. Not as advertisers but as sponsoring members.
Figure out what it will cost with Valiant to do a decent upgrade. Annually.
And then figure out what we need split up by sponsors annually.
Then as a high honor on this site each fellow will have "Sponsor" or Contributor or Snagger or whatever under his membership title (Senior Junior God etc )
That way we can keep our own little place in this world like you suggest MJ, beholding to no one and an even tighter family group.
Let me say that I was never a big get on the computer guy, but with the guys I have met here and the friends I have made on this site it is definitely something special in the world of communication and other sites are envious of our camaraderie
You do enough already MJ, plus you have all kind of health issues with yourself and your wife. We do not need you doing more or especially paying for the site.
Plus you entertain us with copious Wind Talking
That way we can be our own family group, you can continue to monitor and moderate the way you have been, and we we can have a good fast moving site for all. Plus we will still be free for most members.
I am fortunate enough to be running my own business right now and I am willing to commit to $100.00 a year. Not everyone will be able to do that and a couple of years ago I could not do that much. But pick a number after you find out the cost and come up with an amount that will allow everyone who wants to be a proud sponsor to contribute. You are going to have to do something like that anyhow as having one of our brothers paying for this site out of his disability check is not right.
That is my suggestion.

[willy]

Another suggestion is to add a sponsor section and let a guy who runs his own business post his link there for whatever he does and maybe if a fellow here is in his area and needs something done he might get some business from it.
Personally I am thinking about posting a link as a hitman or male prostitute.

[Cam]

I for one would be more than willing to kick in $20 a year as a subscription fee. Not all members would have to kick in, but if you get enough people to subscribe to helping out this site, you can easily offset the server costs. Another forum I belong to does this and it helps immensely. Count me in if you decide to go that route. I like this site and want to see it succeed and be here for a long time to come.

[spareparts]

Originally Posted by willy

Another suggestion is to add a sponsor section and let a guy who runs his own business post his link there for whatever he does and maybe if a fellow here is in his area and needs something done he might get some business from it.
Personally I am thinking about posting a link as a hitman or male prostitute.

btw, I'd be more than willing to sign on a sponsor with my business

[yodaddy]

Originally Posted by macojoe

Also I looked into the Google stuff as Therm suggested, i filed out there app and here is the email i got back

They probably ran a bot against the site that couldn't find anything. Turn on the vBulletin 'Friendly URLS' option and give Google another shot. - https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/...ofriendly_urls