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as you guys have watched me build this boat Im sure a few of you now have figured out that everything I do on this boat is CAVE MAN style and I guess I would say old school and fuctional.Even the core for my hatches that i cut out tonight are just simple ACX 3/4 ply thats gonna be wrapped with 2 layers of 1708 and then faired. This is a very budget concious build.This is what I consider a true shade tree build!!!!!!
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as you guys have watched me build this boat Im sure a few of you now have figured out that everything I do on this boat is CAVE MAN style and I guess I would say old school and fuctional.Even the core for my hatches that i cut out tonight are just simple ACX 3/4 ply thats gonna be wrapped with 2 layers of 1708 and then faired. This is a very budget concious build.This is what I consider a true shade tree build!!!!!!
Kracker Jack, i have never been a fan of a linered boat. I like simple and old school. I love my V20 (not as much as my dad does though!!!!!) but in my opinion liners are wasted space, excess weight, and something else to leak. I would like to build a ?rolled gunnel? V20 center console. I think i can use the upper portion of the liner. And do like you suggested and cut the cuddy portion out or shorten it. I apologize for hijacking your thread, i see a good idea and get carried away.
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as you guys have watched me build this boat Im sure a few of you now have figured out that everything I do on this boat is CAVE MAN style and I guess I would say old school and fuctional.Even the core for my hatches that i cut out tonight are just simple ACX 3/4 ply thats gonna be wrapped with 2 layers of 1708 and then faired. This is a very budget concious build.This is what I consider a true shade tree build!!!!!!

Well I suppose all things are relative...it looks like rocket science from here...
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Re subscribed.. Jasoncoopercola, The liner on the 1983 also adds a lot of structural support. The hull is flemsy without the cap. Glassing a rolled gunnel will help with some of the structural issues but I suspect you would need to install some ribs to keep the hull sides from flopping in the waves and causing stress cracks where the bulkheads meet the hull sides. The older hulls, like KrackerJack's have a liner but it is glued in place tight to the outer skin I think. that adds strength. Then his gunnel cap and vertical braces (ribs) are going to tighten her up even further. I have Reels old 74 here that is like Kracker's. That is the best I can determine without ripping into her.
Kracker, your work is just fine, don't beat yourself up. Two layers of 1708? You are building her heavy.
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Re subscribed.. Jasoncoopercola, The liner on the 1983 also adds a lot of structural support. The hull is flemsy without the cap. Glassing a rolled gunnel will help with some of the structural issues but I suspect you would need to install some ribs to keep the hull sides from flopping in the waves and causing stress cracks where the bulkheads meet the hull sides. The older hulls, like KrackerJack's have a liner but it is glued in place tight to the outer skin I think. that adds strength. Then his gunnel cap and vertical braces (ribs) are going to tighten her up even further. I have Reels old 74 here that is like Kracker's. That is the best I can determine without ripping into her.
Kracker, your work is just fine, don't beat yourself up. Two layers of 1708? You are building her heavy.
Ridge you are correct my liner is tight to the outer hull. It is glued or puttied down from the cap about 2 inches and then it expands out and seperates from the out side hull. So what I did was drilled holes in my liner were my gunwale supports are laid out and filled the holes with foam to even further tighten up the rigidity of the hull.
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I did not know that Ridge. I know the 18 i have tore apart now is a floppy mess. I am just wondering if i can cut the liner and reuse the cap but lay my own sole. I have no problem installing and making ribs. I want to delete the two rear hatches and splashwell. I may bracket the v20 so i wont need a splashwell, maybe even install a transom door? The hardest part i foresee is the cuddy and windsheild part of the liner. I will have to look close at my v20 and see how much work is involved. But i like Krackers idea of a shortened cuddy centerconsole. I am pulling the liner to check my stringers and transom, but i cant do anything till i get the 18 out of the garage. Last thing code enforcement needs to see is a torn apart boat in the yard..........
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BIG GLASS DAY TOMORROW!!! 84 degrees, no humidity. Gunwale supports are being glassed tomorrow. Im gonna try and do wet on wet with all of them to keep it strong. I have alot of glassing left to do, I cant wait till its over. Im getting ever so closer, the t-top has become a project in itself. I also found a slap disc that has a full radius around the entire edge of the wheel it is great for shaping inside radius, I'll take a pic of it tomorrow it is a must have for shaping inside corners saves alot of time.
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Beautiful day for fiberglass Kracker! I was hoping to have new V here but ran out of time yesterday.....Scrubbing on my '78 today.

Post pics of progress this eve!!!
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