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If you are intending to use the Glock with lead bullets please order a replacement barrel from Barsto or similar as the type of rifling they use is not appropriate for lead bullets.
great guns, I have two, a 21 and a 30. But I would not use my reloads in them. Also the chambers in Glock factory barrels are not a full support (for the case) type barrel. That is a problem with reloads, especially for multiply fired brass.
Again great guns, just use them within respect of Gastons intention and design.
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I've finally took the time to actually research the Glops instead of letting opinions prejudge me.
I'm actually very impressed with them and would definitely consider a Model 20 although just a few more mm's of barrel length would make me happier.
I completely agree with willy however as with most things I'll bastardize stuff in a flash.
This is what I've determined.
The factory barrels "will" shoot lead stuff fine and without hazard "if" you are diligent to remove the lead deposits. Seems the rifling design accumulates lead more readily than others normal barrels. A replacement barrel for the constant use of lead stuff would be a better idea.
The reloaded ammo "will" be fine "if" you follow correct reloading basics of brass inspection and preparation. The unsupported chamber will show defects of the brass in a most negative way through rupture.
The combined two designs can easily cause major problems due to improper maintenance and defective reloading procedures.
I'm still impressed with the Glocks but have no real physical basis for this.
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first morning without the prescription meds, just ibuprofin, one word for you oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww !
I'm sore and moving real slow, looks like another day in the recliner.


As far as the glocks go, I was surprised how much disinformation was claimed to be fact, the internet pissin matches were over the top,you'd a thought some one said something bad about a Wellcraft. General consinsous is if you shoot lead, keep pressue low, use hard alloy, clean often. The lead haters seem to be the same ones who wash their glocks in the dishwasher and swear they only need to have it done every 5000 rounds. I think I'm going to play it safe and buy bullets for now, might buy a barrel, awful tempting to get one with threads on the end and apply for the stamp.On another note, I've been shopping a 9mm for the wife, got it narrowed down to Ruger SR9, G19, or trade in Smith 6906, I'm liking the Smith more and more, I can get one for under $400. Any opinions on the Smith?
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Too soon for bourbon intake?

I have no experience with those three but recall no bad opinions of them either.
Let her pick from the ones you're comfortable with. I'm sure you don't dare pick what shoes she has.
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My favorite handgun to this day is my S&W Model 13- 357mag revolver. Plink with the cheapest of .38 special wad-cutters. The S&W copy of a 1911 is a decent shooter.. Not sure about the 9mm though Spare.
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Dave that series of Smith's semi autos were an improvement over the 39 and others but no where near the ball park of reliability and shootability of the Glock. Some of the P.D's that had them got rid of them early due to reliability and repair issues.
Smith;s new semi auto is doing very well I am being told and so is Springfield Armory's Croatian built gun.
Taurus's 9mm Beretta 92 clones in all sizes apparently are very nice and well made.
CZ has nice composite frame gun to.
A lot of competition for that 450-650 price range right now.
Ruger got good right ups on their small 9's but I have not inspected or shot one yet, nor do I know anyone who has. Ruger revolvers are decent and respected among pistoleros around here but not trusted semi auto wise.
If you can find a used Sig Sauer in the shops, older Sigs that is and especially any made in either West Germany or Germany especially the 228 229 226 239 models you have the best made in your hands and especially the 228 and 229 if you are looking for a smaller framed 9mm.
The new ones quality control has gone down terribly the past 4-5 years and I would not buy another one until some serious corporate changes happen.
This Sig 225 in 9mm has been my constant partner on my hip on and off duty for 25 years. Along with a Smith 38 snub revolver during the hot summers.
This Sig has never once failed to feed any type of ammo, never failed to fire, not once, even with questionable ammo, and shoots a 2" hole at 20 yards all day, with jus about any ammo. Over 6 thousand rounds through her.


I would actually look for used German made Sig 228 before I would buy any contemporary made gun. JMHO
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spare, listen to willy.
God, I think I love him!
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