More jobs go overseas...

[Destroyer]

Keep your eye on Waukesha,Wisconsin...... Their biggest employer just moved out.

General Electric is planning to move its 115-year-old X-ray division from Waukesha , Wis., to Beijing, China. In addition to moving the headquarters, the company will invest $2 billion in Chinaand train more than 65 engineers and create six research centers. This is the same GE that made$5.1 billion in the United Stateslast year but paid no taxes-the same company that employs more people overseas than it doesin the United States.
So let's get this straight.
Obama appointed GE Chairman Jeff Immelt to head his commission on job creation (job czar).Immelt is supposed to help create jobs. I guess Obama forgot to tell him in which country he was supposed to be creating those jobs.

Thanks Jeff, you're a "real" American....give Barrack our Best !!
If this doesn't show you the total lack of leadership of this President, I don't know what does.


Verified on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/ge.asp

[RidgeRunner]

Jiminy Christmas, it just gets better doesn't it.

[jeffmo]

I think that the number of jobs that have been created in recent months outnumber those that have left out nation.this economic downturn didn't happen over night or even in a couple of years for that matter.I personally didn't think that it would ever recover in a period of a few years either.sad though to see the loss of those jobs.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46250775/Empl...w_Jobs_Created

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/bu...te-is-8-3.html

[Blue_Runner]

Free market capitalism?

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by jeffmo

I think that the number of jobs that have been created in recent months outnumber those that have left out nation.this economic downturn didn't happen over night or even in a couple of years for that matter.I personally didn't think that it would ever recover in a period of a few years either.sad though to see the loss of those jobs.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46250775/Empl...w_Jobs_Created

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/bu...te-is-8-3.html

There's an old saying that figures lie and liers figure. The fact is that we are not in a recovery. We're losing jobs every day to China and other overseas countries. Our actual unemployment figures are closer to 15-18%. They (Washington) are skewing the numbers by not counting people that are unemployed and have used up their unemployment benefits... so since they are not drawing unemployment they are not counted as unemployed anymore. The actual number of people unemployed is much higher than what's being reported.
Additionally, they cut back the figure on the number of jobs available here in the US. They say that since the jobs have left, and there's little hope of them returning, then they don't have to count them as missing, and so therefore, since the number of unfilled jobs has shrunk, we are in an upturn. It's all a pack of lies.. We're still in a downward spiral and it's getting worse, not better. My God, wake up and smell the roses people... get informed!!!

[Blue_Runner]

Immelt is the CEO of GE. CEO performance is tied to profits. Well guess what? US based companies have figured out that they can be MORE profitable by using OFFSHORE resources! I don't see how anyone can blame this man for increasing profits of a company for which he is the chief executive officer. You buy gas for your car/truck don't you? You just made an Arab richer at your last fill up....

Secondly, this little teeny GE X-ray department is about the size of a miniature ameoba compared to the jobs lost to overseas. We are talking millions upon millions of jobs lost overseas overall (not only that but the snopes review states there will be no existing US jobs lost as a result of the GE announcement).

I've seen it first hand in 2 different industries - furniture and insurance. Lexington, NC used to have a huge furniture industry. These days, we ship the wood overseas and they ship it back as furniture. Tell me how that makes freakin sense? In insurance (I work in IT for a large insurance company) they started around 2004 replacing IT folks with Indian labor (half priced or even less). At my company our head count is down 50% of the 1,300 + people that once worked in this building. Not just IT - call center labor provided by the good folks in the Philipenes. You better believe that is excellent customer service! LOL NOT!

Our country needs to figure out a way to make it more profitable to use our own resources. When I say resources I'm talking everything including human resources and natural resources AND DEVELOPMENT OF NEW RESOURCES.

Here is a good read on this mess.
http://www.workingamerica.org/upload...cingReport.pdf

[jeffmo]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

There's an old saying that figures lie and liers figure. The fact is that we are not in a recovery. We're losing jobs every day to China and other overseas countries. Our actual unemployment figures are closer to 15-18%. They (Washington) are skewing the numbers by not counting people that are unemployed and have used up their unemployment benefits... so since they are not drawing unemployment they are not counted as unemployed anymore. The actual number of people unemployed is much higher than what's being reported.
Additionally, they cut back the figure on the number of jobs available here in the US. They say that since the jobs have left, and there's little hope of them returning, then they don't have to count them as missing, and so therefore, since the number of unfilled jobs has shrunk, we are in an upturn. It's all a pack of lies.. We're still in a downward spiral and it's getting worse, not better. My God, wake up and smell the roses people... get informed!!!

well all I'm saying is that some jobs are being and have been created.I personally beleive that we are recovering at this time.Is it as good as what the Whitehouse says? doubtful.But,It isn't as bad as the Republicans are saying either.the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle.
you know,people choose to beleive whatever source for imformation they want to.As a rule i don't take much stock in either Fox news or MSNBC because they are,in my opinion,slanted in their views.In this day and age of politics in our nation there is a very distinct line between the two sides.Me,I'm still a midle of the road person who thinks that little will get done until BOTH parties are forced by the public to do the jobs they are being paid to do.I also beleive that the 2 news agencies are very responsible for keeping the division alive and well.

[RWilson2526]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

. My God, wake up and smell the roses people... get informed!!!

I think that's a little harsh.....

Contrary to what you may believe Destroyer, people other than yourself are informed. We all just don't choose to consider every bit of good news as a pack of lies and all the bad news as the evil villain Obama's fault. You're hatred of the guy is starting to blind you to all information contrary to your beliefs. They have been using the same formula to calculate unemployment rates for some time I believe. I agree the number is probably not accurate to say the least but it should be relative from month to month.....will you just take an inkling of possible good news and be happy for the country and go with it and not turn it into the grand conspiracy of lies.

[RWilson2526]

Originally Posted by jeffmo

I also beleive that the 2 news agencies are very responsible for keeping the division alive and well.

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[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by RWilson2526

I think that's a little harsh.....

Contrary to what you may believe Destroyer, people other than yourself are informed. We all just don't choose to consider every bit of good news as a pack of lies and all the bad news as the evil villain Obama's fault. You're hatred of the guy is starting to blind you to all information contrary to your beliefs. They have been using the same formula to calculate unemployment rates for some time I believe. I agree the number is probably not accurate to say the least but it should be relative from month to month.....will you just take an inkling of possible good news and be happy for the country and go with it and not turn it into the grand conspiracy of lies.

Naaa.. not harsh... mild really from what I would have liked to say.

Ask yourself....Are you,...are you really informed? Or are you just parrotting what you've heard from the news? It's a given fact that most of the media is controled by ultra left wing interests. Fox is just one network against CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and several others that I'm just too lazy to name... but you get the idea. And the left just hates it and has been doing everything that it can to get it off the air. Meanwhile, you're being spoon fed only those things that they want you to hear, and anything that goes against their agenda they either destroy, create lies about or simply don't report. When you hear the same lie, over and over, from several different sources, pretty soon you start to believe it as fact. It's called propaganda and it worked really well in Germany in the 30's and 40's. You're being subjected to it right this minute and you don't even realize it because you aren't listening to or hearing any other side. It's interesting how when you hear only one side of a subject how biased you become. (And please understand that when I say "you" I mean the "royal" you, meaning the entire American public, not just any one person here on the board)

As for me, I like to think of myself as a highly conservative Independant. I vote Democratic and Republican, depending on who I think is best for the job. I read the NY Times (left wing) and the Wall street Journal (right wing). I listen to NBC news (left wing) and Fox news (right wing) I consider the future of our country and of myself and my children to be far too important to trust any one source, or any one side of a subject. As to the subject at hand, (unemployment and how it's reported) unfortunately, the not counting people whose benefits have run out started with a Republican president. The present administration has just taken it to new heights of lying to the American public. They changed the formula a few months ago so it would look like unemployment has gotten better. It hasn't..it's as bad as it has been, and if anything it's getting worse. They're lying to you.

And really, I don't hate Obama. I even admire him. The way he's been able to fool the American public, his debating skills, his complete and almost total control of the media, his being able to blank out his childhood and any records that might prove who he really is or where he really came from is skillful to an extreme. You have to admire a guy like that. I think that he's absolutely the worse president that our Country has ever had, and I worry that we may never be able to undo the damage to our freedom(s) that he's caused, but I don't hate him. I'm not blind to what or who he is. After all, in order to destroy your enemy you have to know your enemy, and I intend to do everything in my power to help destroy him in the next election. So I need to know him. I read, and I listen, and I learn. That's all I'm asking of everyone else here. Listen, I mean really LISTEN to BOTH sides before you make any decision...I think that's fair, don't you?