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Big thumbs up on trade schools and On the Job Training programs. I participated in the same program in high school. Even served a term as President of our Diversified Cooperative Training Program in my senior year. That is as close to politics as I ever want to get. Taught me the ins and outs of parliamentary procedure and how bogged down the process can get.
With education there are so many variables it would be damn difficult to find any one part that couldn't use some tweaking. The student has to be motivated and want to learn. Until they get to that point by coersion of parents, teacher, or self motivated, they are going to be difficult to teach. I have always had it easy and I was somewhat rebellious in high school. I didn't want to be there. I wanted to party and make money. I was a slacker in school, did very little homework and managed to pull B's and C's. I have some regret for not applying myself better in school. What a waste of time, the teachers, fellow students, taxpayers, not to mention my parents money in college. I started to see the light in my sophomore year (third year) and actually learned how to study. (I took Engineering Calculus three times before I finally gave up my career as a engineer.) I took extra classes and worked hard. Ended up with a double major in business school at USF. So Wilson, I was a case where the teacher had to teach to a lesser standard.

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how ironic

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Big thumbs up on trade schools and On the Job Training programs. I participated in the same program in high school. Even served a term as President of our Diversified Cooperative Training Program in my senior year. That is as close to politics as I ever want to get. Taught me the ins and outs of parliamentary procedure and how bogged down the process can get.
With education there are so many variables it would be damn difficult to find any one part that couldn't use some tweaking. The student has to be motivated and want to learn. Until they get to that point by coersion of parents, teacher, or self motivated, they are going to be difficult to teach. I have always had it easy and I was somewhat rebellious in high school. I didn't want to be there. I wanted to party and make money. I was a slacker in school, did very little homework and managed to pull B's and C's. I have some regret for not applying myself better in school. What a waste of time, the teachers, fellow students, taxpayers, not to mention my parents money in college. I started to see the light in my sophomore year (third year) and actually learned how to study. (I took Engineering Calculus three times before I finally gave up my career as a engineer.) I took extra classes and worked hard. Ended up with a double major in business school at USF. So Wilson, I was a case where the teacher had to teach to a lesser standard.

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I saw your point on your first post but I dont see the connection on this post...My response about school districts teaching to the slowest kid was in response to Ferm's statement which is what I didnt agree with.

"Yet these kids are in the mainstream population, so EVERY kid in the district must learn at the slowest kids rate"
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I held back my fellow students with my attitude toward learning. It wasn't my parents fault that I was uninterested in towing the line. Not exactly a special needs student but I tend to agree more with Ferm. If you can't leave the student behind and you have students that are behind in learning then you must bring them up to proficiency.
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I still think you're sniffin' wood glue down there Ridge but to each his own....The rest of the students in your class made out just fine....some I'm sure went on to be engineers or just plain productive people in society...and in the words of LumberSlinger and the immortal Judge Smails "the world needs ditch diggers too", and I'm sure some in your class went on to be that too.

Don't get me wrong our education system needs some improvement but what I am trying to say is the opportunity to learn and excel in school is there for those who chose or are able to do it. The problem is I'm worried that less and less kids are choosing to do it and I don't think that it is the education systems fault.
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I didn't say it first, but it now bears repeating... the world needs ditch diggers, too.
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I didn't say it first, but it now bears repeating... the world needs ditch diggers, too.

AND LUMBERSLINGERS......ugh
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as an irrigation installer, i resemble that remark
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